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Debian questions
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:14 pm
by Shack
Hey guys! Just wanted to ask a few questions. I cant seem to get some tings to work.
Wine! Yes, there are some Windows apps I would like to use in linux. Like games. How do i get Wine to install. The Wine site says use synaptic and add the Wine depository to it. Well, Synaptic tells me the files are not there.
What am I doing wrong? I want the newer version of Wine.
KDE? Can and how to I add KDE to Debian? Should I just get a different disto? I need something newbie friendly yet powerful and not bloated.
Thanks!
Re: Debian questions
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:53 pm
by Wally Balljacker
Shack wrote:Hey guys! Just wanted to ask a few questions. I cant seem to get some tings to work.
Wine! Yes, there are some Windows apps I would like to use in linux. Like games. How do i get Wine to install. The Wine site says use synaptic and add the Wine depository to it. Well, Synaptic tells me the files are not there.
What am I doing wrong? I want the newer version of Wine.
KDE? Can and how to I add KDE to Debian? Should I just get a different disto? I need something newbie friendly yet powerful and not bloated.
Thanks!
WINE is already in the official Debian repositories. Just do a simple "apt-get install wine" command. If you want a newer version of WINE, you could try installing the testing/unstable version from
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/otherosfs/wine.
On my system, KDE was installed along with GNOME by default. Not sure why yours wasn't. To install KDE, you can do a simple "apt-get install kde" command as well.
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:30 pm
by dann
I echo that. When I used Debian a few months back KDE and Gnome were installed with KDE being set as the default. I forget exactly what installation choice I made, but I thought it was something like graphical workstation.
Wine should be in the debian repositories. But even so, wine is a beast all its own.
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:55 pm
by Tsuroerusu
dann wrote:Wine should be in the debian repositories. But even so, wine is a beast all its own.
Couldn't agree more. I acknowledge that Wine has come a long way considering how proprietary the Windows APIs are, but I've actually never used it for anything serious, except for TransGaming fork, Cedega. Works very very well with a nice Geforce4 Ti-4200 and Warcraft III, no difference from playing the game in Windows, no performance loss, nothing!

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:59 pm
by CptnObvious999
Tsuroerusu wrote:dann wrote:Wine should be in the debian repositories. But even so, wine is a beast all its own.
Couldn't agree more. I acknowledge that Wine has come a long way considering how proprietary the Windows APIs are, but I've actually never used it for anything serious, except for TransGaming fork, Cedega. Works very very well with a nice Geforce4 Ti-4200 and Warcraft III, no difference from playing the game in Windows, no performance loss, nothing!

I actually got Warcraft III to run better in Wine than in XP on my old integrated graphics card. I havn't tried on my new one but since Im using a AMD64 optimized machine and everything is optimized only for 64 I have to do a bunch of stuff to get wine and flash to work so I havn't bothered yet.
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 4:03 pm
by Tsuroerusu
CptnObvious999 wrote:Tsuroerusu wrote:dann wrote:Wine should be in the debian repositories. But even so, wine is a beast all its own.
Couldn't agree more. I acknowledge that Wine has come a long way considering how proprietary the Windows APIs are, but I've actually never used it for anything serious, except for TransGaming fork, Cedega. Works very very well with a nice Geforce4 Ti-4200 and Warcraft III, no difference from playing the game in Windows, no performance loss, nothing!

I actually got Warcraft III to run better in Wine than in XP on my old integrated graphics card. I havn't tried on my new one but since Im using a AMD64 optimized machine and everything is optimized only for 64 I have to do a bunch of stuff to get wine and flash to work so I havn't bothered yet.
By optimized do you mean that you're a fan of the GCC compiling screen saver?
Just kidding dude
Anyway, Cedega really impresses me by being able to run Half-Life 2
It's not like I play it, but it's such an intensive game.
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:46 pm
by Shack
ill give
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/otherosfs/wine a try. Thats not the reposistory Wine says to use, but the one they say to use dont work
Im trying to get Steam to work un Wine. The version the comew with stable is old and doenst work with Wine.
I just did basic install of Debian. It must have just picked KDE. Ill install it through synaptic. Thanks for the quick answers.
Anyone got a tutorial for installing software not in the repository?
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:45 pm
by Tsuroerusu
Steam is very easy to get working if you use Cedega, you can get it from transgaming.com as subscription which is about 5 bucks a month I think.
Cedega is not fully open source because it contains licensed DirectX technology so that a DirectX->OpenGL can be performed.
Say you install a Cedega Debian package: dpkg -i cedega.deb
The next thing to do is just run: cedega steam_installer.exe
I've always had problems trying to get Steam working under standard Wine.