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TLLTS IRC Location

Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 10:07 am
by dann
Just curious, how many people would like to see the tllts irc moved over to freenode.net? Give your opinions. Also, does anyone know if it is possible to link an irc server to freenode so instead of the channel just being in one location it could be mirrored?

Re: TLLTS IRC Location

Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 11:42 am
by allix
freenodes website has a page on hosting a freenode server .
http://freenode.net/hosting_ircd.shtml
freenode urgently needs solid, well-connected hidden hub and public leaf servers. We look for multihomed T3 connections or better, in order to ensure high reliability and low latency. Actual bandwidth usage runs about 45-75Kbits/sec average for hubs, and 450-750Kbits/sec average for leaf servers. This comes to 15-25 gigabytes per month for hubs and 150-250 gigabytes per month for main rotation leaf servers.
Your one lucky guy if you have this kind of connection :wink:

seriously I don't think you can just host one channel because when you connect to freenode, dalnet , undernet etc you index all the channels on your new connection, its like extending a one directional long tube , by connecting your just make the tube longer.

Out-of-interest why do you want it moved? you need the extra bandwidth for WOW ;)

Re: TLLTS IRC Location

Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 12:37 pm
by Tsuroerusu
dann wrote:Just curious, how many people would like to see the tllts irc moved over to freenode.net? Give your opinions.
Please Dann, come on man! Be a man and run your own god darn server, darn it! :lol:

Just kidding.

Although I will say this, I like the though and feeling of connecting to this small IRC server almost every week, it's an odd feeling of nostalgia or something like that, which I appreciate. It's hard to describe, but there's just something about connecting to a small IRC server hosted in somebody's house, rather than some big-ass network running in a data center.

dann wrote:Also, does anyone know if it is possible to link an irc server to freenode so instead of the channel just being in one location it could be mirrored?
If you want to run a Freenode node (Try saying that three times in a row!) then sure, however then you will also be serving every single channel on the network off your server. So if you set up a node on the Freenode network, you will be "mirroring", so to speak, the channels of #ubuntu, #fedora, #opensuse etc. etc. you get the idea. This, like Allix says, takes quite a bit of bandwidth.
I am 99,99 percent certain that you can't run a "single-channel" server as a node on Freenode. I run an IRC server myself, and having dug through the configuration file of ircd-hybrid (Which is confusing as all hell, and the documentation sucks!) I have not seen anything remotely resembling what you describe.


allix wrote:seriously I don't think you can just host one channel because when you connect to freenode, dalnet , undernet etc you index all the channels on your new connection, its like extending a one directional long tube , by connecting your just make the tube longer.
Ted Stevens wrote:I just the other day got, an internet was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday and I just got it yesterday. Why? Because it got tangled up with all these things going on the internet commercially. [...] They want to deliver vast amounts of information over the Internet. And again, the Internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes. And if you don't understand those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and it's going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material.
Source: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ted_Stevens

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: TLLTS IRC Location

Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 12:43 pm
by dann
My only reason for moving is that it might be more convenient for people who connect to multiple channels to be on one server. I personally do not care either way. If it's moved there or not I'll probably still keep the irc up, just not use the techshow channel.

I'll have to look through some of the older versions of hybrid-ircd, I thought there was some information for advertising your channel on another server.

Troels, yeah, I agree wih that configuration file and the sparse documentation.

Re: TLLTS IRC Location

Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 8:27 am
by shopRatt
I voted for "I don't care". I doesn't matter where it is hosted, I will make it a point to be there. It comes down to whatever is more convenient for you, you should go with. Just don't take it down 8)

Re: TLLTS IRC Location

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 8:19 pm
by Brotherred
I do not care either. I had said in the IRC that it is cumbersome to log in to more than one server. And it can be depending on the client used and the OS it is used on.

I am not sure I like the consequences that I am reading here. It does not sound worth it.

Re: TLLTS IRC Location

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:48 pm
by maddog39
My only problem is that freenode tends to ban people over really stupid crap. Like because its scanner found out I had squid running on my network and now I have to negotiate with there stupid ass support ticket system over email to get myself un-glined. If I have no other choice ill just write a quicky IRC bot in python to sync two channels together.

Re: TLLTS IRC Location

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:03 am
by akuma624
Wasn't Dan also asking about forming a general forum for *nix podcasts as well :?:

Re: TLLTS IRC Location

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:33 am
by jelkimantis
I'm all for tllts going onto freenode. It would just make my irssi window have fewer open "windows"

jsl

Re: TLLTS IRC Location

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:00 am
by port7
Move to freenode, its just more convenient for everyone all round.

People have to connect to 1 less server, Dan has less admin to do, everyones a winner!

Re: TLLTS IRC Location

Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 1:32 pm
by Hellmark
As it is, I'm already connected to 4 different networks in Xchat, so no big deal. I just set it up once, and things take care of itself from there on.

However, I am not a fan of Freenode. I've just not had many pleasant experiences there. Too much drama.

Re: TLLTS IRC Location

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:11 pm
by snkmchnb
Forgot about this topic and thought I'd throw my two cents in..

Personally, I'd like to move the channel over to freenode. I already connect to two IRC servers (Freenode and Undernet) and it is just a bit easier to add a channel in to auto connect than to add another server and channel. Plus what's the point of running a server for one channel (I only know of one running on it)?