Podcast Pragmatic Value

[Jza]

I have come around to value the podcast as a medium for information and way to spread FLOSS but I think we really should measure the quality of the content and I guess here are some goals I have come around:
- Mentioning New Products - GOOD
- Product history - NOT SO GOOD

- Giving 1st hand experience of installation - GOOD
- Spending too much time explaining why it didn't work - NOT SO GOOD

- Pumping the expectation for new launchs - GOOD
- Giving ideas how it would been so much better - NOT SO GOOD

Of course this is not personal or anything, but this stuff happens a lot with TWITs cast compared versus SYSTM that shows u how to use it.

I see 2 things in FLOSS that podcast could do so much for it.
a) promote the apps
b) help u getting started with them (installing them)

To a certain degree I find more useful pushing and app more than pushing a new distro for the simple fact that people use apps and not distros since most distros pack the same programs on the average.

I do hate myself for just pointing fingers as opposed to making my own Podcast, but in all honesty I have heard myself and I am not the greatest host, I do have a podcast and is good but not great. You guys already are famous so doing this change will go farther into the community.

[CptnObvious999]

I have come around to value the podcast as a medium for information and way to spread FLOSS but I think we really should measure the quality of the content and I guess here are some goals I have come around:
- Mentioning New Products - GOOD
- Product history - NOT SO GOOD

- Giving 1st hand experience of installation - GOOD
- Spending too much time explaining why it didn't work - NOT SO GOOD

- Pumping the expectation for new launchs - GOOD
- Giving ideas how it would been so much better - NOT SO GOOD

Of course this is not personal or anything, but this stuff happens a lot with TWITs cast compared versus SYSTM that shows u how to use it.

I see 2 things in FLOSS that podcast could do so much for it.
a) promote the apps
b) help u getting started with them (installing them)

I disagree. If you don't tell people the faults then you are basically hiding them from people. Also if developers are listening it gives them areas to improve upon. Although saying more positive things certainly wouldn't hurt.

To a certain degree I find more useful pushing and app more than pushing a new distro for the simple fact that people use apps and not distros since most distros pack the same programs on the average.

I agree more apps less distros. Although don't cut out distros for good.

BTW you guys have gotten better about the Gentoo bashing, Thanks

[Jza]

I disagree. If you don't tell people the faults then you are basically hiding them from people. Also if developers are listening it gives them areas to improve upon. Although saying more positive things certainly wouldn't hurt.

I dont see hiding the faults from people as a bad thing, this is open source it will always be in BETA. And people are very shy with their stuff and wont try anything, so in other words whats the value of scaring people away.

You know, I like what lawyers put on their show, they have a big disclamer at the begininig or end saying, this content is bullshit dont eat it. And then they talk away giving legal advice, or investing tips etc.

But spending most of the show giving reasons why not to try it is not a good way to make users try the product.

[CptnObvious999]

I disagree. If you don't tell people the faults then you are basically hiding them from people. Also if developers are listening it gives them areas to improve upon. Although saying more positive things certainly wouldn't hurt.

I dont see hiding the faults from people as a bad thing, this is open source it will always be in BETA. And people are very shy with their stuff and wont try anything, so in other words whats the value of scaring people away.

Some if not most opensource software is more stable than commercial closed source software. Why do you thing Apple used OpenBSD? Why is Apache so widely used? Why is linux running on millions of servers around the world? Everything has problems the question is which has less.

Also I don't think many noobies listen to TLLTS and they are certainly not discuraging people from trying new apps or distros, just giving them a headsup

[Jza]

I agree but who is doing the marketing bullshit around here. We do need people that create the hype for this 'products'. I think there are GNOME enthusiast and of course the developers are enthusiastic of their product. But really every team need their cheerleaders. Reviewers are NOT cheerleaders and TLLS guys are more like the first.

For example throwing a comment about the launch of Ekiga, GParted or any other new app out there is more close to the 'Linux Desktop' topic than Google not reaching market expectation which was at the top of Slashdot.

Maybe I am just ranting with no real sense, but I would love to see a dedicated Desktop Linux podcast I think many users want to see that.

[Justice]

Maybe I am just ranting with no real sense, but I would love to see a dedicated Desktop Linux podcast I think many users want to see that.

I agree I would like to see a Linux desktop podcast, also a podcast aimed at newbies. I am actualy trying to set up a linux newbie helping newbie site, as I a newbie promoting linux to my friends and whom ever else will listen. do you think a podcast on this topic would help the linux world. would gurus listen or post on forums, or would it just be w wast of time?

[shopRatt]

"Also I don't think many noobies listen to TLLTS and they are certainly not discuraging people from trying new apps or distros, just giving them a headsup"

I totally disagree. I just started using linux over a year ago and stumbled on to TLLTS by chance. At first I used to listen with a pad and pen to write down the stuff I didn't understand and Google it later.

As far as a new Linux user podcast, isn't that what the GNU/Linux User Podcast was about? Justice: I think that you are right though, most of the more experienced users might think that it is a waste of time. But promotion would be the key. Experienced users still answer my questions at linuxquestions.org.

I still consider myself a n00b, I listen to all of the Linux Podcasts I can find (not many) and there is always room for more. Go for it.

//spell-checked by nobody.

[Jza]

I also don't think that newbies don't listen to TLLTS, because people are finding podcast as a new medium and when they want a linux podcast they sometimes want to learn.

For example in TWIT is mostly windoze users but every now and then people 'experiment' with linux, and they are surprised there is such a thing as a linux podcast. So yeah newbies want a linux podcast because (they can listen to an explanation and rewind if they dont get it).

Also because they might want to get as much linux-related information so they don't stay ignorant on the topic for so long.

[Justice]

ok so you convinced me to start my site, I only have a coupule of problems. I am looking for a domain name service that is cheep(free) that will redirect it to my IPS's webspace, and I have no clue how to make a webpage, I have fiddled with frontpage, now I'll try OO.ORG writer/web.

[CptnObvious999]

ok so you convinced me to start my site, I only have a coupule of problems. I am looking for a domain name service that is cheep(free) that will redirect it to my IPS's webspace, and I have no clue how to make a webpage, I have fiddled with frontpage, now I'll try OO.ORG writer/web.

Not sure what host you could use, theres so many. I would suggest learning HTML and coding your self because HTML is not hard at all and I don't really like any of the WYSIWYG Webpage designers but thats just my preference. If you ever need any help you can AIM me at CptnObvious999 or jabber CptnObvious999@kdetalk.net. I know HTML, CSS, some JavaScript, PHP, and SQL (I used to run a couple sites)

[Justice]

Thank you, It's people like you who make Linux what it is great . People sharing knowlage freely, I know its all about open source, but I think that the linux comunity is even more open knowlage.

[Jza]

Lets do this, if you make the content (mp3/ogg) I'll take care of everything else.

[Justice]

ok give us a month for content, we need to get a mic and some content together. It is going to be me and my roomate. he is new to computers to beginwith and he is using only linux. he pretty much never liked MS as an os to start with. In acuality his favriot os from the start was SLACKWARE of all distros.