Sounds good. You up for presenting next month Erin? If not I can do a presentation on Adobe AIR and some of the neat applications of that. <br><br>Can someone at Dominion or who works downtown volunteer to acquisition a suitable place for presentations? The PHP group used Kelley's, and so I would think we could convince them to let us use it too. It would just be a matter of talking to them (I can get you contact info.) Or if someone in Dominion knows who to talk to, we could try doing more presentations in the Dominion building. If no one volunteers, we can just do printouts. Not as fancy, but it'll work.<br>
<br>-zach<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Jon Zuck <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jz@frimmin.com">jz@frimmin.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Erin, I'm very interested in usability. I'd love to see what you two have done.<br><br>Re Kelly's: I myself like it better than Moe and O'Malley's. <br><br>jon<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Erin Walsh <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:erin.walsh@dominionenterprises.com" target="_blank">erin.walsh@dominionenterprises.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>We came up with a new approach to interpreting and acting upon test data for the FRC search redesign. We combined a few different approaches like mental models, affinitizing multiple input factors, competitive analysis and then finally determining the SWOT and strategy for the search process from that. I'd be happy to present on the methods we used and how it can be translated into other projects if anyone is interested. (I may coerce Nickie into joining me, since she was my partner in crime.) <div>
<br></div><div>I think I'm really the only usability person, so I'm not sure how beneficial/interesting it would be for others who don't do user testing or research. I won't be offended if nobody jumps on it since this was to meant to be a DE UX group topic. Also, it's much heavier into the user testing and strategy side than standards, so I know it isn't everyone in wsuug's cup of tea.</div>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Erin Walsh <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:erin.walsh@dominionenterprises.com" target="_blank">erin.walsh@dominionenterprises.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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</span></span></span></span></span> </div><div><div></div><div><br><div><div>On Mar 3, 2009, at 7:44 AM, Reese wrote:</div><br><div style="margin: 0px;">Zach Young wrote:</div> <blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin: 0px;">
It's time for another meeting everyone. Unfortunately, I have a funeral to</div><div style="margin: 0px;">go to and am not sure I will be able to make it in time. Does anyone still</div><div style="margin: 0px;">want to meet? I might be able to make it, just a little late possibly. If I</div>
<div style="margin: 0px;">don't hear back, we will just plan to meet in April.</div> </blockquote><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px;">
I could go either way on that, mostly I think we should look into</div><div style="margin: 0px;">finding a meeting place where we can do presentations. That seemed</div><div style="margin: 0px;">to work pretty well at Kelley's for the PHPUG meeting last month,</div>
<div style="margin: 0px;">but today is probably too-short of notice. We ought to be able to</div><div style="margin: 0px;">set something up for April though.</div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px;">
Does anyone else have strong feelings either way?</div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px;">Reese</div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px;">
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