[Wsuug] Soliciting design mocks for Refresh HR

[Kelley Walker]

At 01:02 AM 2/25/2010, Jon Zuck wrote:
>Just curious, why liquid? I've built both liquid and non. Really prefer 
>"flex" styling myself  al a ALA's Switchy McLayout. I don't see liquidity 
>as a virtue in itself... Line lengths can become quite unwieldly on wide 
>monitors; of course, we're catering to a sophisticated clientele, but 
>really, why liquid?
>
>jon

I used the term liquid as Zoe describes, which is why I pointed to her site:

>No Resolution exists to showcase those websites that have succeeded at 
>liquid design, and serve as a resource to those exploring it. No 
>Resolution includes layouts that are purely liquid (also called fluid), 
>mixed liquid and fixed, elastic, and progressive. You can learn more about 
>liquid design in the <http://www.cssliquid.com/resources/>Resources section.

>
>Disclaimer
>
>Liquid layouts are great. This is not to say that fixed width layouts are 
>bad. They are just too common. "No Resolution" is not a place to defend or 
>attack liquid or fixed layouts; there are enough places for that kind of 
>discussion.


I come from a print background, myself, so I have no problems with fixed 
designs and I certainly understand line-lengths and readability issues. 
Really long line lengths, for instance, give me a headache. I was getting 
merely at the standards issue which, as far as I'm concerned, does tend to 
side to the user having maximum control. I asked about this in a previous 
email, so if you'd like to expound on that topic I'd love to hear. I think 
there's a lot of room for good discussion.

One other reason I care: I'm very good friends with a gentleman in his 70s. 
He has to set his font to 72px. Having listened to him over the years as 
his eyesight has gotten worse and worse, I've come to see the Web from the 
POV of people like him. He's not a Web sophisticate and doesn't have the 
first idea how to disable CSS and is only now, because he must, explore 
using assistive technologies. But I've listened to him complain, for a 
couple of years now, how awful it is to try to read articles and view sites 
people recommend. Yes, people have tried to help him learn to do things 
differently, to make it easier, but the disease - losing your eyesight as 
badly as he has -- has been debilitating and depressing for an intellectual 
who's spent his life reading, books and online. So part of the resistance 
is, of course, anger and depression

Anyway, probably oversharing my friend's trials and tribulations.



Kelley