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Thu Feb 18 14:52:06 EST 2010

Can someone please remove the troll from the mailing list?  He has made it
clear he is "tired of that gay ass mailing list." and obviously has nothing
to contribute other than spewing crap and fuming over personal grievances.

Joshua McDonald
Grow Interactive
www.thisisgrow.com
757-248-5274
757-248-5275 (f)

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Ryan Brunsvold <mail at ryanbrunsvold.com>wrote:

> Alright. This is pointless. Thanks for the reminder Erin.
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:30 PM, James Albert Bowden <
> jalbertbowden at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> and to all you whiners.....more chatter on here today then the past year.
>> so keep whining.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:29 PM, James Albert Bowden <
>> jalbertbowden at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> yes its called who are you
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Erin Walsh <
>>> erin.walsh at dominionenterprises.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The end.
>>>>
>>>> Let us now return to our regularly scheduled healthy discussion about
>>>> actual web standards.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 18, 2010, at 2:24 PM, Adam Crosby wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is there a micro-format for interpersonal oversharing in public?
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 18, 2010, at 2:20 PM, James Albert Bowden wrote:
>>>>
>>>> either you did or you didn't. "really doubt" whatever that means.
>>>> i walked into the bar you said hey albert how's refresh? and you and
>>>> your buddies laughed. and it was great for you. yay! and you didnt say shit
>>>> else to me other then that.
>>>> you are lecturing me telling me what to say or not to say...........i am
>>>> really livid. i'm tired of waiting. i'm tired of backend dudes building
>>>> front end. i'm tired of no communication. i'm tired of that gay ass mailing
>>>> list.
>>>> you want to help......whatever. i'm all ears.
>>>> i am pushing what i have up. and i am heading down south. and i am going
>>>> to invite everyone who signed up to meet in april. thats as far as i've
>>>> worked it out so far.
>>>> albuquerque has ignite and an adobe user group. a city of 300k in a
>>>> desert. we have nothing. this isn't hard. and if people in wsuug don't want
>>>> in....good riddance. wsuug has accomplished nothing in my eyes.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Ryan Brunsvold <mail at ryanbrunsvold.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry Albert but I really doubt I mocked you personally or any group.
>>>>> My history with you and a select few of the DE design/dev folks has always
>>>>> been rewarding and I am aware enough of my own behaviour to know whether or
>>>>> not I've been abusive. You are correct in saying that I haven't been
>>>>> involved with Refresh as of late. The last few months have brought some
>>>>> great opportunities my way and I've been either working on them or traveling
>>>>> to ensure their success. Regardless, I was a bit taken aback by the
>>>>> intensity of your tone once I did return to the group discussion. If things
>>>>> have gotten decidedly more intense during my absence, than I'd really like
>>>>> to do what I can to amend that.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for my design, I did indeed have a finished version but suffered a
>>>>> catastrophic hard drive failure and lost it. I was in the process of
>>>>> rebuilding it anyway, but Zach told me not to worry about it as Denise had
>>>>> already presented her design to the group and everyone's expectations were
>>>>> with her vision.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lastly, I wasn't trying to lecture you or anyone else. I was simply
>>>>> pointing out that if people in the group are spending most of their
>>>>> discussion time insulting each other over opinions, not much of anything
>>>>> will ever be accomplished.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 1:15 PM, James Albert Bowden <
>>>>> jalbertbowden at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> i want to accomplish a community. i have no desire to lead or own a
>>>>>> thing. i want to learn and share.
>>>>>> i'm not working on an "alternate" refresh site...i missed a meeting
>>>>>> and all of a sudden Reese is in charge and working on the design.
>>>>>> i was tactful and it got no response. i came to wsuug for leadership
>>>>>> and for a backend. i've gotten neither. Reese is a backend guy converted to
>>>>>> frontend, and doesn't know what he's doing.
>>>>>> i was stoked to hear about your design (guess you never found it,
>>>>>> huh?) and completely willing to let you make it, cause you know what you're
>>>>>> doing.
>>>>>> so i am building refresh. correctly. actually incorrectly, because i
>>>>>> agree with you, it should be html5, css3 all the way. he has no clue and
>>>>>> instead of doing the backend hes doing the frontend. ps - last email he sent
>>>>>> me, he asked if he could "own" it and put on his resume because "well you
>>>>>> (albert) have a job and i (reese) don't"
>>>>>> common courtesy? last time i saw you, was at jeremy's going away
>>>>>> party, you mocked me and refresh. thanks buddy.
>>>>>> i have a super nice tasty design. and i'm going to push it before i
>>>>>> head down to NC JavaScript n jQuery camp this weekend. Refresh Triangle and
>>>>>> Refresh Richmond will be there. so will Phil Huggins and Paul Irish (of
>>>>>> course i had to use @font-face) and i'm trying to get shit going.
>>>>>> i'm thru weak ass meetings with nothing getting accomplished. i'm
>>>>>> tired of waiting.
>>>>>> dont talk to me about if done correctly....i've been planning this out
>>>>>> for A YEAR. if you ever came to any meetings or were more involved then you
>>>>>> might have a clue.
>>>>>> this is a rambling, but i'm irate and over all of it.
>>>>>> dont care about a mailing list. already have 40 some peeps want in,
>>>>>> send them an email, get them together in april, they can decide on where
>>>>>> this goes.
>>>>>> as for professionalism, whatever. don't fucking lecture me. a whole
>>>>>> list of dooshbags on that list that never answer to shit. sorry if it takes
>>>>>> a curse word to get them to respond. thats their fault and their problem.
>>>>>> bigger and brighter things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Ryan Brunsvold <
>>>>>> mail at ryanbrunsvold.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Albert,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So if you're working on an alternate Refresh site, will you be
>>>>>>> sharing it with this Refresh group or are you starting your own independent
>>>>>>> chapter? Bit confused on this point. Also confused as to your vitriol
>>>>>>> comments. Regardless, you're correct on one point. We are indeed adults and
>>>>>>> as adults we should have learned by now that extending common courtesy and
>>>>>>> respect to other professionals is good manners and more often than not, good
>>>>>>> business.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For my part, I'm in this to learn and where I can, teach. I don't
>>>>>>> think I need to remind you or anyone affiliated with this group that this is
>>>>>>> purely a volunteer effort. There's simply no reason for for this level of
>>>>>>> venom. If the communication or operations of Refresh are creating such a
>>>>>>> high level of stress that you feel the need to lash out at people, perhaps
>>>>>>> you should take a break and consider what you wanted to accomplish when you
>>>>>>> first got involved. No one's losing a job, or family, or friends over what
>>>>>>> we do here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Conversely, by organizing and promoting the best practices in what we
>>>>>>> all do for a living, we have the chance to impact this region's approach to
>>>>>>> web site development. If done correctly, what we do here will most
>>>>>>> definitely have an impact (for the better) on our professional future.
>>>>>>> That's the main reason I'm involved. If you, or anyone, in this group has
>>>>>>> personal motivations that seek to disrupt or poison that goal, please let me
>>>>>>> know as soon as possible as I have no intention of supporting anyone's
>>>>>>> personal agenda.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:42 AM, James Albert Bowden <
>>>>>>> jalbertbowden at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ryan - yes i am.
>>>>>>>> at 2 dudes idk and never ever ever ever ever respond....hey at least
>>>>>>>> it got a response. the only time i get a response is when i do something
>>>>>>>> like that.
>>>>>>>> furthermore, we're adults, if you can't handle "curse" words, that's
>>>>>>>> your problem. when you get out of middle school, hit me up, refresh will be
>>>>>>>> up before then.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> J. Albert Bowden II
>>>>>>>> albert.bowden at residentsource.com
>>>>>>>> jalbertbowden at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> c.757.968.9133
>>>>>>>> w.757.351.7204
>>>>>>>> http://bowdenweb.com/
>>>>>>>> http://refreshhamptoads.org
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> --
>>>>>> J. Albert Bowden II
>>>>>> albert.bowden at residentsource.com
>>>>>> jalbertbowden at gmail.com
>>>>>> c.757.968.9133
>>>>>> w.757.351.7204
>>>>>> http://bowdenweb.com/
>>>>>> http://refreshhamptoads.org
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>>>> J. Albert Bowden II
>>>> albert.bowden at residentsource.com
>>>> jalbertbowden at gmail.com
>>>> c.757.968.9133
>>>> w.757.351.7204
>>>> http://bowdenweb.com/
>>>> http://refreshhamptoads.org
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>>> --
>>> J. Albert Bowden II
>>> albert.bowden at residentsource.com
>>> jalbertbowden at gmail.com
>>> c.757.968.9133
>>> w.757.351.7204
>>> http://bowdenweb.com/
>>> http://refreshhamptoads.org
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> J. Albert Bowden II
>> albert.bowden at residentsource.com
>> jalbertbowden at gmail.com
>> c.757.968.9133
>> w.757.351.7204
>> http://bowdenweb.com/
>> http://refreshhamptoads.org
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