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Thu Feb 18 14:44:41 EST 2010

Alright. This is pointless. Thanks for the reminder Erin.

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:30 PM, James Albert Bowden <
jalbertbowden at gmail.com> wrote:

> and to all you whiners.....more chatter on here today then the past year.
> so keep whining.
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:29 PM, James Albert Bowden <
> jalbertbowden at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> yes its called who are you
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Erin Walsh <
>> erin.walsh at dominionenterprises.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The end.
>>>
>>> Let us now return to our regularly scheduled healthy discussion about
>>> actual web standards.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 18, 2010, at 2:24 PM, Adam Crosby wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there a micro-format for interpersonal oversharing in public?
>>>
>>> On Feb 18, 2010, at 2:20 PM, James Albert Bowden wrote:
>>>
>>> either you did or you didn't. "really doubt" whatever that means.
>>> i walked into the bar you said hey albert how's refresh? and you and your
>>> buddies laughed. and it was great for you. yay! and you didnt say shit else
>>> to me other then that.
>>> you are lecturing me telling me what to say or not to say...........i am
>>> really livid. i'm tired of waiting. i'm tired of backend dudes building
>>> front end. i'm tired of no communication. i'm tired of that gay ass mailing
>>> list.
>>> you want to help......whatever. i'm all ears.
>>> i am pushing what i have up. and i am heading down south. and i am going
>>> to invite everyone who signed up to meet in april. thats as far as i've
>>> worked it out so far.
>>> albuquerque has ignite and an adobe user group. a city of 300k in a
>>> desert. we have nothing. this isn't hard. and if people in wsuug don't want
>>> in....good riddance. wsuug has accomplished nothing in my eyes.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Ryan Brunsvold <mail at ryanbrunsvold.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry Albert but I really doubt I mocked you personally or any group. My
>>>> history with you and a select few of the DE design/dev folks has always been
>>>> rewarding and I am aware enough of my own behaviour to know whether or not
>>>> I've been abusive. You are correct in saying that I haven't been involved
>>>> with Refresh as of late. The last few months have brought some great
>>>> opportunities my way and I've been either working on them or traveling to
>>>> ensure their success. Regardless, I was a bit taken aback by the intensity
>>>> of your tone once I did return to the group discussion. If things have
>>>> gotten decidedly more intense during my absence, than I'd really like to do
>>>> what I can to amend that.
>>>>
>>>> As for my design, I did indeed have a finished version but suffered a
>>>> catastrophic hard drive failure and lost it. I was in the process of
>>>> rebuilding it anyway, but Zach told me not to worry about it as Denise had
>>>> already presented her design to the group and everyone's expectations were
>>>> with her vision.
>>>>
>>>> Lastly, I wasn't trying to lecture you or anyone else. I was simply
>>>> pointing out that if people in the group are spending most of their
>>>> discussion time insulting each other over opinions, not much of anything
>>>> will ever be accomplished.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 1:15 PM, James Albert Bowden <
>>>> jalbertbowden at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> i want to accomplish a community. i have no desire to lead or own a
>>>>> thing. i want to learn and share.
>>>>> i'm not working on an "alternate" refresh site...i missed a meeting and
>>>>> all of a sudden Reese is in charge and working on the design.
>>>>> i was tactful and it got no response. i came to wsuug for leadership
>>>>> and for a backend. i've gotten neither. Reese is a backend guy converted to
>>>>> frontend, and doesn't know what he's doing.
>>>>> i was stoked to hear about your design (guess you never found it, huh?)
>>>>> and completely willing to let you make it, cause you know what you're doing.
>>>>>
>>>>> so i am building refresh. correctly. actually incorrectly, because i
>>>>> agree with you, it should be html5, css3 all the way. he has no clue and
>>>>> instead of doing the backend hes doing the frontend. ps - last email he sent
>>>>> me, he asked if he could "own" it and put on his resume because "well you
>>>>> (albert) have a job and i (reese) don't"
>>>>> common courtesy? last time i saw you, was at jeremy's going away party,
>>>>> you mocked me and refresh. thanks buddy.
>>>>> i have a super nice tasty design. and i'm going to push it before i
>>>>> head down to NC JavaScript n jQuery camp this weekend. Refresh Triangle and
>>>>> Refresh Richmond will be there. so will Phil Huggins and Paul Irish (of
>>>>> course i had to use @font-face) and i'm trying to get shit going.
>>>>> i'm thru weak ass meetings with nothing getting accomplished. i'm tired
>>>>> of waiting.
>>>>> dont talk to me about if done correctly....i've been planning this out
>>>>> for A YEAR. if you ever came to any meetings or were more involved then you
>>>>> might have a clue.
>>>>> this is a rambling, but i'm irate and over all of it.
>>>>> dont care about a mailing list. already have 40 some peeps want in,
>>>>> send them an email, get them together in april, they can decide on where
>>>>> this goes.
>>>>> as for professionalism, whatever. don't fucking lecture me. a whole
>>>>> list of dooshbags on that list that never answer to shit. sorry if it takes
>>>>> a curse word to get them to respond. thats their fault and their problem.
>>>>> bigger and brighter things.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Ryan Brunsvold <
>>>>> mail at ryanbrunsvold.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Albert,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So if you're working on an alternate Refresh site, will you be sharing
>>>>>> it with this Refresh group or are you starting your own independent chapter?
>>>>>> Bit confused on this point. Also confused as to your vitriol comments.
>>>>>> Regardless, you're correct on one point. We are indeed adults and as adults
>>>>>> we should have learned by now that extending common courtesy and respect to
>>>>>> other professionals is good manners and more often than not, good business.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For my part, I'm in this to learn and where I can, teach. I don't
>>>>>> think I need to remind you or anyone affiliated with this group that this is
>>>>>> purely a volunteer effort. There's simply no reason for for this level of
>>>>>> venom. If the communication or operations of Refresh are creating such a
>>>>>> high level of stress that you feel the need to lash out at people, perhaps
>>>>>> you should take a break and consider what you wanted to accomplish when you
>>>>>> first got involved. No one's losing a job, or family, or friends over what
>>>>>> we do here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Conversely, by organizing and promoting the best practices in what we
>>>>>> all do for a living, we have the chance to impact this region's approach to
>>>>>> web site development. If done correctly, what we do here will most
>>>>>> definitely have an impact (for the better) on our professional future.
>>>>>> That's the main reason I'm involved. If you, or anyone, in this group has
>>>>>> personal motivations that seek to disrupt or poison that goal, please let me
>>>>>> know as soon as possible as I have no intention of supporting anyone's
>>>>>> personal agenda.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:42 AM, James Albert Bowden <
>>>>>> jalbertbowden at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ryan - yes i am.
>>>>>>> at 2 dudes idk and never ever ever ever ever respond....hey at least
>>>>>>> it got a response. the only time i get a response is when i do something
>>>>>>> like that.
>>>>>>> furthermore, we're adults, if you can't handle "curse" words, that's
>>>>>>> your problem. when you get out of middle school, hit me up, refresh will be
>>>>>>> up before then.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> J. Albert Bowden II
>>>>>>> albert.bowden at residentsource.com
>>>>>>> jalbertbowden at gmail.com
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>>>>>>> w.757.351.7204
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>>>>>>> http://refreshhamptoads.org
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>> jalbertbowden at gmail.com
>> c.757.968.9133
>> w.757.351.7204
>> http://bowdenweb.com/
>> http://refreshhamptoads.org
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> albert.bowden at residentsource.com
> jalbertbowden at gmail.com
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