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Thu Feb 18 14:30:31 EST 2010

and to all you whiners.....more chatter on here today then the past year. so
keep whining.

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:29 PM, James Albert Bowden <
jalbertbowden at gmail.com> wrote:

> yes its called who are you
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Erin Walsh <
> erin.walsh at dominionenterprises.com> wrote:
>
>> The end.
>>
>> Let us now return to our regularly scheduled healthy discussion about
>> actual web standards.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 18, 2010, at 2:24 PM, Adam Crosby wrote:
>>
>> Is there a micro-format for interpersonal oversharing in public?
>>
>> On Feb 18, 2010, at 2:20 PM, James Albert Bowden wrote:
>>
>> either you did or you didn't. "really doubt" whatever that means.
>> i walked into the bar you said hey albert how's refresh? and you and your
>> buddies laughed. and it was great for you. yay! and you didnt say shit else
>> to me other then that.
>> you are lecturing me telling me what to say or not to say...........i am
>> really livid. i'm tired of waiting. i'm tired of backend dudes building
>> front end. i'm tired of no communication. i'm tired of that gay ass mailing
>> list.
>> you want to help......whatever. i'm all ears.
>> i am pushing what i have up. and i am heading down south. and i am going
>> to invite everyone who signed up to meet in april. thats as far as i've
>> worked it out so far.
>> albuquerque has ignite and an adobe user group. a city of 300k in a
>> desert. we have nothing. this isn't hard. and if people in wsuug don't want
>> in....good riddance. wsuug has accomplished nothing in my eyes.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Ryan Brunsvold <mail at ryanbrunsvold.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry Albert but I really doubt I mocked you personally or any group. My
>>> history with you and a select few of the DE design/dev folks has always been
>>> rewarding and I am aware enough of my own behaviour to know whether or not
>>> I've been abusive. You are correct in saying that I haven't been involved
>>> with Refresh as of late. The last few months have brought some great
>>> opportunities my way and I've been either working on them or traveling to
>>> ensure their success. Regardless, I was a bit taken aback by the intensity
>>> of your tone once I did return to the group discussion. If things have
>>> gotten decidedly more intense during my absence, than I'd really like to do
>>> what I can to amend that.
>>>
>>> As for my design, I did indeed have a finished version but suffered a
>>> catastrophic hard drive failure and lost it. I was in the process of
>>> rebuilding it anyway, but Zach told me not to worry about it as Denise had
>>> already presented her design to the group and everyone's expectations were
>>> with her vision.
>>>
>>> Lastly, I wasn't trying to lecture you or anyone else. I was simply
>>> pointing out that if people in the group are spending most of their
>>> discussion time insulting each other over opinions, not much of anything
>>> will ever be accomplished.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 1:15 PM, James Albert Bowden <
>>> jalbertbowden at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> i want to accomplish a community. i have no desire to lead or own a
>>>> thing. i want to learn and share.
>>>> i'm not working on an "alternate" refresh site...i missed a meeting and
>>>> all of a sudden Reese is in charge and working on the design.
>>>> i was tactful and it got no response. i came to wsuug for leadership and
>>>> for a backend. i've gotten neither. Reese is a backend guy converted to
>>>> frontend, and doesn't know what he's doing.
>>>> i was stoked to hear about your design (guess you never found it, huh?)
>>>> and completely willing to let you make it, cause you know what you're doing.
>>>>
>>>> so i am building refresh. correctly. actually incorrectly, because i
>>>> agree with you, it should be html5, css3 all the way. he has no clue and
>>>> instead of doing the backend hes doing the frontend. ps - last email he sent
>>>> me, he asked if he could "own" it and put on his resume because "well you
>>>> (albert) have a job and i (reese) don't"
>>>> common courtesy? last time i saw you, was at jeremy's going away party,
>>>> you mocked me and refresh. thanks buddy.
>>>> i have a super nice tasty design. and i'm going to push it before i head
>>>> down to NC JavaScript n jQuery camp this weekend. Refresh Triangle and
>>>> Refresh Richmond will be there. so will Phil Huggins and Paul Irish (of
>>>> course i had to use @font-face) and i'm trying to get shit going.
>>>> i'm thru weak ass meetings with nothing getting accomplished. i'm tired
>>>> of waiting.
>>>> dont talk to me about if done correctly....i've been planning this out
>>>> for A YEAR. if you ever came to any meetings or were more involved then you
>>>> might have a clue.
>>>> this is a rambling, but i'm irate and over all of it.
>>>> dont care about a mailing list. already have 40 some peeps want in, send
>>>> them an email, get them together in april, they can decide on where this
>>>> goes.
>>>> as for professionalism, whatever. don't fucking lecture me. a whole list
>>>> of dooshbags on that list that never answer to shit. sorry if it takes a
>>>> curse word to get them to respond. thats their fault and their problem.
>>>> bigger and brighter things.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Ryan Brunsvold <
>>>> mail at ryanbrunsvold.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Albert,
>>>>>
>>>>> So if you're working on an alternate Refresh site, will you be sharing
>>>>> it with this Refresh group or are you starting your own independent chapter?
>>>>> Bit confused on this point. Also confused as to your vitriol comments.
>>>>> Regardless, you're correct on one point. We are indeed adults and as adults
>>>>> we should have learned by now that extending common courtesy and respect to
>>>>> other professionals is good manners and more often than not, good business.
>>>>>
>>>>> For my part, I'm in this to learn and where I can, teach. I don't think
>>>>> I need to remind you or anyone affiliated with this group that this is
>>>>> purely a volunteer effort. There's simply no reason for for this level of
>>>>> venom. If the communication or operations of Refresh are creating such a
>>>>> high level of stress that you feel the need to lash out at people, perhaps
>>>>> you should take a break and consider what you wanted to accomplish when you
>>>>> first got involved. No one's losing a job, or family, or friends over what
>>>>> we do here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Conversely, by organizing and promoting the best practices in what we
>>>>> all do for a living, we have the chance to impact this region's approach to
>>>>> web site development. If done correctly, what we do here will most
>>>>> definitely have an impact (for the better) on our professional future.
>>>>> That's the main reason I'm involved. If you, or anyone, in this group has
>>>>> personal motivations that seek to disrupt or poison that goal, please let me
>>>>> know as soon as possible as I have no intention of supporting anyone's
>>>>> personal agenda.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:42 AM, James Albert Bowden <
>>>>> jalbertbowden at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ryan - yes i am.
>>>>>> at 2 dudes idk and never ever ever ever ever respond....hey at least
>>>>>> it got a response. the only time i get a response is when i do something
>>>>>> like that.
>>>>>> furthermore, we're adults, if you can't handle "curse" words, that's
>>>>>> your problem. when you get out of middle school, hit me up, refresh will be
>>>>>> up before then.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> J. Albert Bowden II
>>>>>> albert.bowden at residentsource.com
>>>>>> jalbertbowden at gmail.com
>>>>>> c.757.968.9133
>>>>>> w.757.351.7204
>>>>>> http://bowdenweb.com/
>>>>>> http://refreshhamptoads.org
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> J. Albert Bowden II
> albert.bowden at residentsource.com
> jalbertbowden at gmail.com
> c.757.968.9133
> w.757.351.7204
> http://bowdenweb.com/
> http://refreshhamptoads.org
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J. Albert Bowden II
albert.bowden at residentsource.com
jalbertbowden at gmail.com
c.757.968.9133
w.757.351.7204
http://bowdenweb.com/
http://refreshhamptoads.org
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