[Wsuug] New To The Group - Local Synergies

[Ken Collins]

Also, if it was not clear, when I mentioned synergies, I was talking  
about speaker sharing. IE, it would be cool if someone from WSUUG  
would do a talk at our group and from our group to yours on the  
commonalities. If somehow my synergy paragraph was taken as a "hey  
ya'll come to 757rb for web standards" that is way off target. From  
the guys from this group that I met, we talked about something that we  
in our own local group have been talking about, speaker/topic sharing  
from regional and local groups.

Crap, am I really coming off base here?

  - Sorry,
     Ken



On Nov 7, 2009, at 9:30 PM, Ken Collins wrote:

>
> Well I'd like to know more about refresh if there is info. I admit I  
> have bias's and that may show but it's not meant to be mean natured.  
> I am in ernest interested in knowing if there is something the  
> groups can do together. Thoughts?
>
> - Ken
>
>
> On Nov 7, 2009, at 8:59 PM, Andrew Jaswa wrote:
>
>> Ken,
>>
>> I think you have completely missed the point of Refresh. It isn't  
>> what
>> they do or do for us, its a philosophy about how to do things. Some
>> guy in Arizona isn't helping you locally. (I'm not sure what gave you
>> that idea)
>>
>> As far as Grow/Pretty Tasty go they cater to a certain type and  
>> aren't
>> what my original intent for this group to be. Nor was it the tools or
>> anything else...
>>
>> When I started WSUUG I had only vaguely heard about Refresh. Had I
>> known about it more there would have never been a WSUUG.
>>
>> I really don't understand your post other then to promote your own
>> stuff (which of course is fine).
>>
>> And if you wonder why I've involved with the WSUUG still even though
>> I'm in Denver now, it is because I founded it and my name is still
>> attached.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Andrew
>>
>> =============
>> Andrew Jaswa
>> andrewjaswa.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Ken Collins <ken at metaskills.net>  
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Greetings Everyone,
>>>
>>> My name is Ken Collins [1] and I may have met a few of ya'll at  
>>> this weeks
>>> 757 Studio [2]. For those that do not know, I head up the local  
>>> ruby [3] and
>>> objective-c [4] user groups and the recent studio event was a  
>>> little brain
>>> child of mine to help help drive awareness of these groups, and  
>>> perhaps
>>> others, to the local business community.
>>>
>>> While at the studio event, a few of ya'll brought up the  
>>> possibility of
>>> sharing speakers and topics. Most ruby web application developers  
>>> that I
>>> know are real keen on web standards, including my self, heck I  
>>> used to be a
>>> designer too. To that end I invite all that are interested in  
>>> learning about
>>> web application development with ruby/rails to attend our 101  
>>> course on the
>>> heels of the 757 studio, details below. We have a great venue at  
>>> my old work
>>> place Decipher right in downtown Norfolk.
>>>
>>> http://ruby.meetup.com/130/calendar/11821650/
>>>
>>> Now on the topic of synergies. I've given talks at our ruby meetup  
>>> that I
>>> can do again if this group finds them interesting. For instance,  
>>> I'm a big
>>> nut about object oriented JavaScript construction driven in an  
>>> unobtrusive
>>> way, ie no tag soup [5][6]. I would love to give this talk or any  
>>> other that
>>> possibly relates to how the rails framework has ongoing support  
>>> for web
>>> standards like leveraging dataset attributes, etc.
>>>
>>> So if this email is not long enough already, I was just reading  
>>> some back
>>> threads and noticed something about "refresh". Just my 2cents...  
>>> why do we
>>> need some Arizona based social media junkie [7] helping us  
>>> locally? Does the
>>> refresh site actually do something? For instance, one thing I  
>>> liked about
>>> Grow Interactive (the first venue for 757 studio) was they  
>>> deployed a
>>> community site <http://prettytasty.org/>  for Tidewater's creative  
>>> pros.
>>> Local to local is what it is all about. If it is a matter of  
>>> tools, we have
>>> been using meetup.com but have started an open source project (now  
>>> located
>>> on my github account) called "code_up" that will replace  
>>> meetup.com all
>>> together. Eventually when it's done, it should be a nice little  
>>> open source
>>> project that allow any group to host there own meetup.com-style  
>>> application.
>>> Not that meetup.com is expensive, and it does have what they call  
>>> the
>>> "network-effect" [8], but for us as a group, we have reached a  
>>> maturity
>>> where we need to eat our own dog food and host our own programmed  
>>> app. Just
>>> food for thought.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Cheers,
>>>   Ken
>>>
>>> 1) http://www.metaskills.net/
>>> 2) http://www.757studio.org/
>>> 3) http://757rb.org/
>>> 4) http://757objc.org/
>>> 5) http://www.metaskills.net/2008/8/18/in-hell-oo-for-homemarks
>>> 6) http://www.metaskills.net/2008/5/24/the-ajax-head-br-design-pattern
>>> 7) http://twitter.com/aaronpost
>>> 8)
>>> http://37signals.com/svn/posts/2002-bug-tracking-isnt-a-network-effect-business
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