[Wsuug] Microsoft Backtracks on Standards in IE8

[Ryan Brunsvold]

This was the one topic that was creating a lot of discord at AEA New Orleans
last year. I and Jaswa had the good fortune of witnessing a pretty heated
debate between Molly Holzschlag, Aaron Gustafson, and others regarding this
issue. 

It seems as though most people in that room came to an uneasy consensus, which
I think is best portrayed in these two articles:

http://forabeautifulweb.com/blog/about/pajamas/

http://www.easy-reader.net/archives/2008/02/25/automatically-opting-in-to-ie8s-standards-mode/

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From: Zach Young <young.zach at gmail.com>
To: Web Standards and Usability User Group <wsuug at list.wsuug.org>
Sent: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 19:41:53 -0500
Subject: Re: [Wsuug] Microsoft Backtracks on Standards in IE8

> It's not really worth debating. It would've been nice if they had 
> been able to figure out a better solution to the problem, but I 
> using a meta tag isn't that big of a deal. It would be a pain on 
> sites that aren't dynamic, but all of mine just pull in one header 
> file, so its a pretty easy task to add their special meta tag in.
> 
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Christopher Jones <chrismjones at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
> > But I can still put a meta tag into the page head (or set once
> > server-side) to get things to render how I want? So this is the exact
> > same issue as last year except that if a site does absolutely nothing,
> > users have a chance to influence whether or not the site uses the old
> > rendering engine or not? If a simple line in the header is what keeps
> > you off the blacklist, then I'm not sure this is worth debating again.
> >
> > ~ Christopher
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Jon Zuck <jz at frimmin.com> wrote:
> > > That is true.  Very true.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Zach Young <young.zach at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Sounds like a pain if you get blacklisted. Oh well... To their credit,
> > >> though, it is a tricky problem to solve.
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Jon Zuck <jz at frimmin.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Not completely, but they will force some sites to render in IE7
> > >>> Compatibility mode. Read more here:
> > >>> http://is.gd/jlqM
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
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> > >>>
> > >>> "Just sit there right now. Don't do a thing. Just rest. For your
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> > > --
> > > Jon
> > >
> > > http://rockom.net
> > > http://www.frimmin.com
> > > http://www.wildwebweaving.com
> > > http://bonege.com/
> > >
> > > "Just sit there right now. Don't do a thing. Just rest. For your
> > separation
> > > from God is the hardest work in the world."
> > >                   ~Hafiz
> > >
> > >
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