[Wsuug] Updated/new site

Sat Jan 26 15:05:45 EST 2008

Actualy, in this situation, it makes sense to have the header div there.

Since the sub-line is part of the header, but not part of the H1...your
grouping the "header"

... and H# tags are technically "headings" not "headers" ... header is the
top of the content, headings are used through out the content...

On Jan 26, 2008 1:32 PM, Jason Wilson <jason at jasonwilsondesign.com> wrote:

> Depends on the situation, a header is the collective information at
> the head of a page, a heading can be a part of a header or a header
> by itself.
>
> In this case, H1 by itself is probably more correct.
>
> On 26 Jan 2008, at 13:25, Adam Crosby wrote:
>
> > Doesn't the 'H' in 'H2' and 'H1' mean Header?  Is wrapping the tag
> > that says 'Header1' with a div called 'header' really necessary?
> > Why not just give the <h1> an id or a class?
> >
> >
> > On Jan 25, 2008, at 8:45 PM, Jason Wilson wrote:
> >
> >> Semantically speaking, 'H2' isn't really the proper tag to use. H2
> >> would imply that you are starting a new section of the page.
> >>
> >> Perhaps the answer you are looking for is the Acronym tag.
> >>
> >> <div id="header">
> >>      <h1><acronym title="Web Standards and Usability Users
> >> Group">WSUUG</acronym></h1>
> >> </div>
> >>
> >> Also, if you're not using a background you can drop the div and
> >> just position your H1 tag.
> >>
> >>
> >> Jason
> >>
> >>
> >> On 25 Jan 2008, at 16:21, Andrew Jaswa wrote:
> >>
> >>> Everything should be all happy and semantic now. The h2 was added to
> >>> the header like it was before I went mucking about with things. Also
> >>> Ryan and I weren't really feeling the centered text at the top so it
> >>> got shifted to the left and image removed.
> >>>
> >>> So heres a question (mainly for the folks who write html out there):
> >>> What can I do to make the header section more semantic and
> >>> possibility
> >>> more "readable"? By readable I mean not just with your eyes. Code
> >>> below.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> <div id="Header">
> >>>             <h1>WSUUG</h1>
> >>>             <h2>Web Standards and Usability User Group</h2>
> >>> </div>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Andrew
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 24, 2008 4:00 PM, Andrew Jaswa <ajaswa at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Hey Josh,
> >>>>
> >>>> The alt text for image works for the H1 (which can be read by both
> >>>> screen readers and search spiders). I am planning on redoing that
> >>>> though with sifr (or with plain text) later tonight.  As for the
> >>>> H2 I
> >>>> kinda forgot about that... heh. Good catch though thanks!
> >>>>
> >>>> If you have any ideas for content please let me know. I'm
> >>>> planning on
> >>>> posting the slides and notes from presentations (once we get
> >>>> around to
> >>>> them) on the site. Its also not meant to be an overly content heavy
> >>>> site more information and getting people to come to meetings then
> >>>> anything.
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyways good comments thanks!
> >>>>
> >>>> Andrew
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jan 24, 2008 3:48 PM, Joshua McDonald <josh at thisisgrow.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> I think this is my first time jumping into the email
> >>>>> conversation...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I like the site...its simple...clean...a little lacking in
> >>>>> content...but not
> >>>>> bad...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1 thing though...since it is a "usability" site...your headings...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The document outline is
> >>>>>
> >>>>> H1 - [No Heading Text]
> >>>>>    H2 - [Missing Heading]
> >>>>>          H3 - About.
> >>>>>               H4 - Why?
> >>>>>               H4 - Who?
> >>>>> H3 and H4 are good, but Without H1 and H2, its silly to jump to
> >>>>> 3.  Since
> >>>>> you have the title as an image, you should still do this:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <h1>wsuug</h1>
> >>>>> <h2>web standards and usability group</h2>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -OR-
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <h1>wssug - web standards and usability group</h2> ... and then
> >>>>> move the
> >>>>> other (h3 + h4) to h2 + h3.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> then just style h1/h2 (first example) or h1 (second) to be
> >>>>> display:none.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> One of the things I always try to do is get the document
> >>>>> outline to look
> >>>>> right (if you have the Web Dev Toolbar in firefox, its in
> >>>>> "information ->
> >>>>> view document outline") ... as it helps usability, and it also
> >>>>> helps alot in
> >>>>> the weighting terms by search bots...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jan 24, 2008 3:38 PM, Andrew Jaswa <ajaswa at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hey Folks,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I updated the wsuug site today.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you have any links for the resources page please include a
> >>>>>> description of the site and what grouping it should be in.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://wsuug.org
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Enjoy.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Andrew
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>> Wsuug mailing list
> >>>>>> Wsuug at list.wsuug.org
> >>>>>> http://www.thelinuxlink.net/mailman/listinfo/wsuug
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Joshua McDonald
> >>>>> Grow Interactive
> >>>>> www.thisisgrow.com
> >>>>> 757-248-5274
> >>>>> 757-248-5275 (f)
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>>> Wsuug at list.wsuug.org
> >>>>> http://www.thelinuxlink.net/mailman/listinfo/wsuug
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
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> >>
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