[Wsuug] Good news!

[Joshua McDonald]

Actually, i re-read what I said, and it did come off like that...sorry.

I didn't mean it like that (update or leave) ... my wording was poor.


-josh

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Joshua McDonald <josh at thisisgrow.com>
wrote:

> Actually, read what I said (I'm not saying that in the "you can't read"
> tone...damn these internets and their lack of inflection)
>
> I said show a message.  Not disable the site.  That would never work, for
> the reasons you said.  But showing a "readable" but non "intrusive" message
> would do wonders.  Don't make people use/not use one browser, but show them
> that there are alternatives.  Most people just don't know that one browser
> provides a better, more secure internet experience over another...
>
> I'm actually working on a campaign like this...a grassroots "switch"
> campaign...I don't think the outcome would be huge, but I am curious to see
> what just "informing" people on medium sized sites would do for the
> awareness.
>
> -josh
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Andrew Jaswa <ajaswa at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 19, 2008 10:51 AM, Joshua McDonald <josh at thisisgrow.com> wrote:
> > > They will never get it right.  Not with windows, not with IE.
> >
> > Bitter?
> >
> > > What needs to happen, is developers "join up" and stand up for our
> > > standards.
> >
> > We are. Thats what half this group is about, the other half is
> > providing the best experience to our users.
> >
> > > Big sites (eBay, MySpace, FaceBook, and major retail sites....etc)
> > should
> > > team up and show a simple message.
> >
> > Umm... I have worked with some rather large sites and worked with
> > folks who work on other large sites. We CANNOT stop support for 80+%
> > (or which ever number you want) of our visitors. There is too much at
> > stake (both in traffic and revenue). As web developers it is our job
> > to provide the best experience to our users no matter what they prefer
> > as their browser.
> >
> > This would be like going to a car wash and them turning me away
> > because I drive a Honda. They'll let in Ford's, Chevy's and any other
> > car you want to throw in there. But not me because I drive a Honda. So
> > what will I end up doing? I'll go down the street and go to some place
> > that will let me in. There are more then enough websites out there
> > where if they won't let me in with my browser of choice I'll move on
> > to something similar.
> >
> > You cannot discriminate on personal preference or browser loyalty. As
> > much as I would like to kick IE and everything that comes from it to
> > the curb, I can't. To many people use it, while Firefox has made great
> > inroads into taking some of that market share away, IE is here to
> > stay.
> >
> >
> > > "You are viewing this site in a non standards-compliant browser.
> >  Please
> > > install a standards compliant browser to continue" and link to FF,
> > Safari,
> > > Opera (ugh...), etc...
> >
> > Don't forget to include IE7 in there heh...
> >
> >
> > > If just a handfull of the biggest sites do it, MS's hand will be
> > > forced...and they might actually get it right.
> >
> > Firefox, Opera and Safari already have with taking the market share
> > from an old browser.
> >
> >
> > Andrew
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>
>
>
> --
> Joshua McDonald
> Grow Interactive
> www.thisisgrow.com
> 757-248-5274
> 757-248-5275 (f)
>



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Joshua McDonald
Grow Interactive
www.thisisgrow.com
757-248-5274
757-248-5275 (f)
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