[Wsuug] Good news!

[Joshua McDonald]

Actually, read what I said (I'm not saying that in the "you can't read"
tone...damn these internets and their lack of inflection)

I said show a message.  Not disable the site.  That would never work, for
the reasons you said.  But showing a "readable" but non "intrusive" message
would do wonders.  Don't make people use/not use one browser, but show them
that there are alternatives.  Most people just don't know that one browser
provides a better, more secure internet experience over another...

I'm actually working on a campaign like this...a grassroots "switch"
campaign...I don't think the outcome would be huge, but I am curious to see
what just "informing" people on medium sized sites would do for the
awareness.

-josh

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Andrew Jaswa <ajaswa at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 19, 2008 10:51 AM, Joshua McDonald <josh at thisisgrow.com> wrote:
> > They will never get it right.  Not with windows, not with IE.
>
> Bitter?
>
> > What needs to happen, is developers "join up" and stand up for our
> > standards.
>
> We are. Thats what half this group is about, the other half is
> providing the best experience to our users.
>
> > Big sites (eBay, MySpace, FaceBook, and major retail sites....etc)
> should
> > team up and show a simple message.
>
> Umm... I have worked with some rather large sites and worked with
> folks who work on other large sites. We CANNOT stop support for 80+%
> (or which ever number you want) of our visitors. There is too much at
> stake (both in traffic and revenue). As web developers it is our job
> to provide the best experience to our users no matter what they prefer
> as their browser.
>
> This would be like going to a car wash and them turning me away
> because I drive a Honda. They'll let in Ford's, Chevy's and any other
> car you want to throw in there. But not me because I drive a Honda. So
> what will I end up doing? I'll go down the street and go to some place
> that will let me in. There are more then enough websites out there
> where if they won't let me in with my browser of choice I'll move on
> to something similar.
>
> You cannot discriminate on personal preference or browser loyalty. As
> much as I would like to kick IE and everything that comes from it to
> the curb, I can't. To many people use it, while Firefox has made great
> inroads into taking some of that market share away, IE is here to
> stay.
>
>
> > "You are viewing this site in a non standards-compliant browser.  Please
> > install a standards compliant browser to continue" and link to FF,
> Safari,
> > Opera (ugh...), etc...
>
> Don't forget to include IE7 in there heh...
>
>
> > If just a handfull of the biggest sites do it, MS's hand will be
> > forced...and they might actually get it right.
>
> Firefox, Opera and Safari already have with taking the market share
> from an old browser.
>
>
> Andrew
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Joshua McDonald
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