[Lvlug] SICP online

Chris chris at kutztownlinux.org
Tue Jan 30 11:51:29 EST 2007


Theerasak Photha wrote:
> On 1/30/07, Chris <chris at kutztownlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> Theerasak Photha wrote:
>> > On 1/29/07, Chris <chris at kutztownlinux.org> wrote:
>> >> Faber J. Fedor wrote:
>> >> > For the programming geeks in the audience, UC Berkeley has a
>> >> podcast of
>> >> > their course teaching "Structure and Interpretation of Computer
>> >> > Programs" (http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book.html).
>> >> >
>> >> > You need iTunes to access it via http://itunes.berkeley.edu/.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> I see I'll be complaining to yet another site about how they should
>> >> release in something less proprietary and cross platform.
>> >
>> > Well, again, you can look at the YouTube lectures as well. :)
>
>> This might be true- but that doesn't excuse them. They should be setting
>> an example as one of the better universities, at least some would say.
>
> Gah! BSD and LSD!
>
>> Might I add YouTube also requires proprietary components (Flash,
>> although I think Adobe released a limited spec so I suppose the open
>> source Flash is ok, except that it doesn't support the video if I recall
>> correctly because that was not included in what was released). The only
>> complaints I'll generally make are to those companies that use or
>> support proprietary software/devices that don't work with Linux. I
>> figure at least extending proprietary support to Linux is better than no
>> support- we can always deal with the proprietary issues later.
>
> Well, first of all, it's nice to see that someone still cares---I've
> kind of died inside over the years, so I just fritter away time making
> dumbass technology lectures, getting obscure foreign music for people
> (what I'm doing now), learning Lisp, trying to succeed in school, and
> generally doing anything I can to validate my existence now, on a day
> to day basis.
>
> So I'm not going to discourage you. I'd be a real mean prick and not
> just a run-of-the-mill troll if I did. Keep up the good fight.
>
> You can upload a lot of formats to youtube---I'm ultimately using AVIs
> for my all my recorded VNC sessions now, actually, because transcode
> can do nifty stuff with them. Of course, the player is Flash, and I
> don't know how far the GNU Flash project has gotten as I'm honestly
> using the standard SWF player which comes with Vector. I hate to make
> it look like I'm proverbially slapping a decal on the back of Chevy
> Suburban, but I do wish them the best of luck.
>
> And fortunately, development for all these prop. codecs pretty much
> has a strong foothold; remember that MPlayer and friends are largely
> developed outside the US. The European Commission may have colluded
> with the BSA and made decisions in secret, but it looks like we're
> definitely safe from software patents for the foreseeable future.
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I'm not giving up the fight- mainly because I've seen progress over the 
years and some of it has been because I stood up and fought. It is easy 
to take the mindset we lost and be lazy- but this is far from the truth. 
It is more like an ongoing battle. We just haven't won the war yet-and 
that will never be won until we're on top.



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