[Lvlug] Session 1 Presentation

[jab]

Faber,

>> I'm curious, in your license cost scenario, why do you need 90 Client
Access
>> Licenses for 1000 email users. I am asking out of curiousity. I have
no idea
>> how licensing works for win2k and exchange.

>I was wondering if anyone would notice that.  The prices forExchange
>come with 5 CALS.

Being similarly unfamiliar with the licensing schemes, I'm wondering:

  Do you then (statistically) only need a CAL for 10% of the total
volume
  of users (90 + 2 * 5)?   And the 101st simultaneous user gets denied?

  If you have to get a CAL for every possible user (990 + 2 *5), the CAL
  cost becomes substantialy more opressive: $27,720 vs $2,520.

If the latter, the total ms cost of $31,040 (vs $5,840) should
definitely be
included on the 'Low Cost Features' page.

If a statistical 'how many users will be accessing at once' CAL quota
may be employed (does MSloth even allow that?), then perhaps a note to
that effect should be added to the page.

jim


As a side note, I looked at the TCO .pdf file, also available on the
Cybersource
site (on your reference page):

 
http://www.cyber.com.au/cyber/about/linux_vs_windows_tco_comparison.pdf

Of course, a TCO calculation, as opposed to just adding up the software
costs, entails the making of come considerable assumptions (ie: your
mileage will vary), but the numbers are interesting:

Buying all new hardware:

  $1,018,010.50 vs $766,616.95 ($251,393.55, 24.69% savings)

Reusing existing hardware: 

  $733,973.50 vs $482,579.95 ($251,393.55, 34.25% savings)

    (250 user system & costs for a three year period)

The major difference in this analysis apparently being the inclusion
of MS Office functionality. Whether that constitutes groupware or not,
I'm not sure (Dann's "IMG16: This comparison could get hairy" comment
having driven me off on the tangent).

  And with that ... he trails off ...