[Linux4christians] The "Christian Church" network, doctrine?

[usacomputertech]

My Father was Pentecostal / Charismatic and tried to tell me that you 
had to speak in toungs to be filled with the Holy Spirit. It does 
happen. Their Church and entire family thought and taught that way.

On 05/19/2011 08:00 AM, David Ormand wrote:
>>>  I am told that they promote the notion that baptism by immersion
>>>  is a necessary element of salvation, much as some 'Charismatic'
>>>  doctrine mandates 'speaking in tongues'.
>
>>  This is a fallacy spread by many Baptists about Charismatics. I grew up
>>  Baptist. We arrived in Mexico in 1956, sent here by the Baptist General
>>  Conference (Used to be the old Swedish Baptist.) And I still work 
>> with many
>>  Baptist churches and friends (and dozens of other denominations). 
>> And I have
>>  worked with many Charismatic churches on five continents. I have 
>> NEVER met
>>  any of them who claim that tongues are required for salvation.
>
> There may be a difference between official, written-down, taught by the
> denomination doctrine of "you must speak in tongues to be saved", and
> the unofficial, popular, held by lay and clergy alike litmus test of
> "if you don't speak in tongues, then you must not really be saved".
>
> I've visited charismatic groups, and had (Baptist background) friends
> attempt to join such churches.  No, there's nothing in their Statement
> Of Belief of "speaking in tongues is required for salvation".  But it
> isn't long before people there will ask you, "don't you speak in
> tongues?  There must be something wrong with your salvation."
>
> I think we must recognize the difference between official doctrine and
> popular doctrine.  Like, the Catholic Church may teach that Mary cannot
> save, but there are lots of (especially in Tucson, hispanic) Catholics
> who believe she can.  And the Mormon church has lots of odd beliefs, but
> your typical Mormon missionaries who show up at your door will deny that
> the church really believes that.  AND (to get on an old saw), there is
> no official Baptist position that drinking alcohol is a sin, but pretty
> much ALL of the former generation will condemn it as such.
>
>
>
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