[Linux4christians] OOT: My stand on Gay/Lesbian

[Karl Kleinpaste]

David Kuntadi <d.kuntadi at gmail.com> writes:
> Paul is not married, and even now Pope
> and catholic pastors are not married?

But Peter was married, and so were other apostles and church fathers.

In other words, some marry, some do not.  Nothing more.  And both
celibacy and marriage are given due respect in scripture, in appropriate
contexts for each.

You have to ask yourself, When did RCC priestly celibacy come about?  It
was not so, from the beginning.  After all, and to repeat myself, Peter
was married, and RCC claims him as first pope.

In any event, papal pre-eminence was a new invention in 1215AD at the
4th Lateran Council.  I believe that is also when the matter of RCC
priestly celibacy was declared, which is overtly contrary to scripture
in e.g. 1Tim 3 and Tit 1, where we are told the leaders of the church
are to be married and have a demonstrably well-managed home life before
they are permitted to take charge of the management of church life.  A
quick wikipedia check says it was somewhere in Canons 14-18 of that
council.  But this nonsense became part of RCC tradition nonetheless.

Scripture trumps tradition, every single time.  Jesus spent an
inordinate fraction of his (recorded) earthly life in the necessity of
beating up religious leaders about their preference for their traditions
over the commands of scripture.

I wonder if Jesus ever met a Pharisee or Sadducee whose company he just
plain liked.  I rather doubt it.