From anglophile7 at cox.net  Sat May  1 01:47:20 2010
From: anglophile7 at cox.net (Ruth Ellen Cooper)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 22:47:20 -0700
Subject: [Linux4christians] music
Message-ID: <op.vb0ic6e248a52i@trinity>


I've been following the discussion on Christian music. I'd like to invite  
you all to check out the ministry I do. It's called Progressive Christian  
Experience.

I have a BA in music-classical guitar and voice, and a Master of Divinity.  
I use music to teach theology. I record Progressive rock versions of hymns  
on which I sing and play all the instruments-all kinds of guitars,  
mandolins, and bass. I write a book to go with each CD that does an  
inductive Bible study for each song based on the lyrics. My live  
performances are done as a worship service in which I do all the music and  
preach on one of the hymns.

I have a music profile on My Space where you can hear the last 10 songs I  
have recorded: myspace.com/ruthellencooper

On my website you can purchase the first CD and book or listen to podcasts  
of me reading some chapters from the first book:  
ruthellencooper.x10hosting.com


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From satimis at yahoo.com  Sat May  1 07:03:27 2010
From: satimis at yahoo.com (Stephen Liu)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 04:03:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Linux4christians] Music
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References: <24570.38.100.225.206.1272438873.squirrel@lavabit.com>
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Hi brothers and sisters,


Thanks for your advice.

I'm searching for those great hymns demonstrated in following URL as example;

"Here is Love Vast as the Ocean" Welsh Church
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liWYLxitHkU

Carols of the Bells 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KzbcEnpXc4&feature=related

God So Loved The World John Stainer , St Pauls Cathedral Choir: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5Akz6J8Rw0&feature=related

Trinity Church Hallelujah Chorus 2006 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNvo3-aRwEc&feature=related

etc.


There are remarkable classic hymn composed by the great composers such as Johann Sebastian Bach, George Frideric Handel, Richard Wagner, etc.

Great music:-
Messiah composed by Handel
Ave Maria composed by Bach
Music for a Church Wedding composed by Wagner
etc.


Would it be possible to find a index list on Internet?


B.R.
Stephen L






________________________________
From: Peter B. Steiger <webservant at trinitybclaramie.org>
To: Linux for Christians <linux4christians at thelinuxlink.net>
Sent: Thu, April 29, 2010 11:01:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Linux4christians] Music

Ah!  Try this:
http://www.cyberhymnal.org/

Shalom,
PBS


On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Stephen Liu <satimis at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>Hi Peter,
>
>What I'm searching for is something similar to the index of a Hymn book on Internet.  On the same I can refer to the Hymn which I like.  It is time consuming to google the Hymn on the hard copy Hymn book.  Besides I can remember the name of all Hymn.  Thanks
>
>B.R.
>Stephen
>
>

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From fmiller at lightlink.com  Sat May  1 17:26:56 2010
From: fmiller at lightlink.com (Fred A. Miller)
Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 17:26:56 -0400
Subject: [Linux4christians] Music
In-Reply-To: <759996.19167.qm@web113213.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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	<4BD8CC8E.6080107@bibleseven.com>	<4BD8E9A9.7090705@lavabit.com>
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	<759996.19167.qm@web113213.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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On 05/01/2010 07:03 AM, Stephen Liu wrote:
> Hi brothers and sisters,
>
>
> Thanks for your advice.
>
> I'm searching for those great hymns demonstrated in following URL as 
> example;
>
> "Here is Love Vast as the Ocean" Welsh Church
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liWYLxitHkU
>
> Carols of the Bells
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KzbcEnpXc4&feature=related 
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KzbcEnpXc4&feature=related>
>
> God So Loved The World John Stainer , St Pauls Cathedral Choir:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5Akz6J8Rw0&feature=related 
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5Akz6J8Rw0&feature=related>
>
> Trinity Church Hallelujah Chorus 2006
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNvo3-aRwEc&feature=related 
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNvo3-aRwEc&feature=related>
>
> etc.
>
>
> There are remarkable classic hymn composed by the great composers such 
> as Johann Sebastian Bach, George Frideric Handel //, Richard Wagner, etc.
>
> Great music:-
> Messiah composed by Handel
> Ave Maria composed by Bach
> Music for a Church Wedding composed by Wagner
> etc.
>
>
> Would it be possible to find a index list on Internet?
>
>
> B.R.
> Stephen L
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Peter B. Steiger <webservant at trinitybclaramie.org>
> *To:* Linux for Christians <linux4christians at thelinuxlink.net>
> *Sent:* Thu, April 29, 2010 11:01:49 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Linux4christians] Music
>
> Ah!  Try this:
> http://www.cyberhymnal.org/
>
> Shalom,
> */PBS/*
>
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Stephen Liu <satimis at yahoo.com 
> <mailto:satimis at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Peter,
>
>     What I'm searching for is something similar to the index of a Hymn
>     book on Internet.  On the same I can refer to the Hymn which I
>     like.  It is time consuming to google the Hymn on the hard copy
>     Hymn book.  Besides I can remember the name of all Hymn.  Thanks
>

'Hope so!! This is the type of music I've been wanting.......the "real" 
stuff! ;)

Fred

-- 
"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people,
except for a few public officials." -- George Mason

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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Sat May  1 22:01:13 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 21:01:13 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 9:1-2 (Sunday)
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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Sun May  2 19:46:19 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 18:46:19 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 9:3-4 (Monday)
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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Mon May  3 23:30:17 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 22:30:17 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 9:5-6
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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Tue May  4 17:25:27 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 16:25:27 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Has anyone seen this Web error before?
In-Reply-To: <j2o97eb34751004202100vdefc6324k7cde9aa56a96fbfa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BCE72BA.2020902@bibleseven.com>
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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Tue May  4 22:37:48 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 21:37:48 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 9:7-17 (Wednesday)
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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Wed May  5 22:13:07 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 21:13:07 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 9:18-29 (Thursday)
Message-ID: <4BE225B3.7040204@bibleseven.com>

*Genesis 9:18-29 (Thursday)*


/9:18 The sons of Noah who came out of the ark were Shem, Ham, and 
Japheth. (Now Ham was the father of Canaan.) 9:19 These were the sons of 
Noah, and from them the whole earth was populated. /

/ /

/9:20 Noah, a man of the soil, began to plant a vineyard. 9:21 When he 
drank some of the wine, he got drunk and uncovered himself inside his 
tent. 9:22 Ham, the father of Canaan, saw his father's nakedness and 
told his two brothers who were outside. 9:23 Shem and Japheth took the 
garment and placed it on their shoulders. Then they walked in backwards 
and covered up their father's nakedness. Their faces were turned the 
other way so they did not see their father's nakedness. /

/ /

/9:24 When Noah awoke from his drunken stupor he learned what his 
youngest son had done to him. 9:25 So he said, "Cursed be Canaan! The 
lowest of slaves he will be to his brothers." /

/9:26 He also said, "Worthy of praise is the Lord, the God of Shem! May 
Canaan be the slave of Shem! /

/ /

/9:27 May God enlarge Japheth's territory and numbers! May he live in 
the tents of Shem and may Canaan be his slave!" /

/ /

/9:28 After the flood Noah lived 350 years. 9:29 The entire lifetime of 
Noah was 950 years, and then he died. /


*Prayer:* Lord, write on my heart the lessons of respect for others You 
have illustrated in Your Word, the consequences of disrespect upon 
oneself and others, and the blessing that respect for others may bring.


*Commentary*


The text begins with an emphasis upon Ham's lineage flowing out to the 
Canaanites.


The text tells us that Noah was a farmer and among other things he 
planted and harvested a vineyard,

and when he did he enjoyed more of the fruits of his labor than he 
should have and thus became "stupid drunk", shedding his clothes and 
collapsing in his tent.


Ham, although about 100 years old, was the youngest son and came upon 
him in that sorry state and took his robe to his older brothers laughing 
about his father's nakedness -- a great disrespect.


The older brothers take the robe and respectfully look away as they 
covered their father.


When Noah recovered from his drunkenness he was made aware of his son's 
disrespect and declared a curse [a prophesy perhaps] upon the 
descendants of Ham, the Canaanites, as they would be as disrespectful of 
God and others as was Ham.


Noah also pronounced a blessing [a prophesy perhaps] on Shem and 
Japheth's descendants.


Noah was 600 years old before the Flood and lived another 350 years 
afterwards before he died.


*Interaction*


*Consider this:* God wants us to know that the way that we choose to 
live before Him, and in our interactions with others, has an impact on 
our biological, legal, and spiritual descendants.


*Discuss this:* When have you observed the disciplined respect for God 
passed down from generation to generation and the rebellion against God 
also passed on?


*Reflect on this:* All three bothers knew the expectations of God for 
their treatment of their father yet Ham chose to be disrespectful, we 
also get to make choices, do we stoop to immaturity with Ham or stand 
respectful before God with Shem and Japheth?


*Share this:* When have you been tempted to disrespect or shame a parent 
or other authority figure? What did you choose to do and what was the 
consequence?


*Faith in Action*


*Prayer:* Ask the Holy Spirit to show you where you may have more in 
common with Ham than with Shem and Japheth.


*Action:* I agree to review my daily life for any patterns of disrespect 
or shaming toward parents or legitimate authority figures and to 
prayerfully submit to the Holy Spirit as He helps me to change my 
attitude and conduct.


*Be Specific* 
_______________________________________________________________________


/*Friday's text will be:  Genesis 10:1-14*
/

-- 

"Learning to love like Jesus."  Eph. 4:2
Have an http://Ultrafidian.com Day!  Pastor David
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From fmiller at lightlink.com  Wed May  5 21:26:36 2010
From: fmiller at lightlink.com (Fred A. Miller)
Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 21:26:36 -0400
Subject: [Linux4christians] Open-source codecs face patent challenge?
Message-ID: <4BE21ACC.5040700@lightlink.com>

*If authentic, a new email from Steve Jobs has indicated that Apple and
Microsoft could be preparing to challenge the validity of open-source
video codecs.*

Jobs' email to Hugo Roy<http://hugoroy.eu/jobs-os.php>  of the Free
Software Foundation Europe, coupled with a similarly worded announcement
from Microsoft on Friday, is a shot across the bow of backers of the
open-source Ogg Theora video codec, used by Mozilla to bring HTML5 video
technology to Firefox. Both Apple and Microsoft plan to use the H.264
codec in their HTML5 strategy, which is governed by a licensing body
called MPEG LA. Apple and Microsoft, along with a host of tech
companies, are also members of that group.

http://www.zdnet.com.au/open-source-codecs-face-patent-challenge-339302805.htm?feed=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:%20zdnetaustralia%20%28ZDNet%20Australia%29&omnRef=NULL

-- 
"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people,
except for a few public officials." -- George Mason

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From fmiller at lightlink.com  Wed May  5 21:26:02 2010
From: fmiller at lightlink.com (Fred A. Miller)
Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 21:26:02 -0400
Subject: [Linux4christians] Open-source codecs face patent challenge?
Message-ID: <4BE21AAA.1030005@lightlink.com>

If authentic, a new email from Steve Jobs has indicated that Apple and
Microsoft could be preparing to challenge the validity of open-source
video codecs.*

Jobs' email to Hugo Roy<http://hugoroy.eu/jobs-os.php>  of the Free
Software Foundation Europe, coupled with a similarly worded announcement
from Microsoft on Friday, is a shot across the bow of backers of the
open-source Ogg Theora video codec, used by Mozilla to bring HTML5 video
technology to Firefox. Both Apple and Microsoft plan to use the H.264
codec in their HTML5 strategy, which is governed by a licensing body
called MPEG LA. Apple and Microsoft, along with a host of tech
companies, are also members of that group.

http://www.zdnet.com.au/open-source-codecs-face-patent-challenge-339302805.htm?feed=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:%20zdnetaustralia%20%28ZDNet%20Australia%29&omnRef=NULL

-- 
"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people,
except for a few public officials." -- George Mason

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From gorkon at gmail.com  Wed May  5 21:39:11 2010
From: gorkon at gmail.com (Joel Mclaughlin)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 21:39:11 -0400
Subject: [Linux4christians] Open-source codecs face patent challenge?
In-Reply-To: <4BE21AAA.1030005@lightlink.com>
References: <4BE21AAA.1030005@lightlink.com>
Message-ID: <k2l6dd08b11005051839v109d598bzb31a92846d423fd9@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah we're talking about this now on the tech show.... http://tllts.org



On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Fred A. Miller <fmiller at lightlink.com> wrote:
> If authentic, a new email from Steve Jobs has indicated that Apple and
> Microsoft could be preparing to challenge the validity of open-source
> video codecs.*
>
> Jobs' email to Hugo Roy <http://hugoroy.eu/jobs-os.php> of the Free
> Software Foundation Europe, coupled with a similarly worded announcement
> from Microsoft on Friday, is a shot across the bow of backers of the
> open-source Ogg Theora video codec, used by Mozilla to bring HTML5 video
> technology to Firefox. Both Apple and Microsoft plan to use the H.264
> codec in their HTML5 strategy, which is governed by a licensing body
> called MPEG LA. Apple and Microsoft, along with a host of tech
> companies, are also members of that group.
>
> http://www.zdnet.com.au/open-source-codecs-face-patent-challenge-339302805.htm?feed=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:%20zdnetaustralia%20%28ZDNet%20Australia%29&omnRef=NULL
>
> --
> "I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people,
> except for a few public officials." -- George Mason
>
> _______________________________________________
> Linux4christians mailing list
> Linux4christians at thelinuxlink.net
> http://www.thelinuxlink.net/mailman/listinfo/linux4christians
>
>



-- 
Joel McLaughlin
Life in Ohio Podcast
life.in.ohio.pod at gmail.com
gorkon at gmail.com
http://lifeinohio.libsyn.com
joel at geardiary.com
geardiary.com

From fmiller at lightlink.com  Thu May  6 15:20:20 2010
From: fmiller at lightlink.com (Fred A. Miller)
Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 15:20:20 -0400
Subject: [Linux4christians] Apple vs. Microsoft: Linux Bloggers Pick Their
	Poison
Message-ID: <4BE31674.3000907@lightlink.com>

As much as I hate to agree, as I despise MickySoft with a royal passion
and all it has done and stands for, at this point in time, I have to
agree with "Alastair Otter."

Fred

Apple vs. Microsoft: Linux Bloggers Pick Their Poison
------------------------------------------------------------

"Do you want hemlock, or will a cyanide capsule do?" That was Slashdot
blogger Barbara Hudson's response to a question being debated in the
Linux blogosphere in recent days. Specifically, is Apple or Microsoft
worse for FOSS? Cupertino was the choice of Alastair Otter, the blogger
who originally raised the question. "Apple is an even bigger threat"
than Microsoft, he asserted.

See the Full Story:
http://www.technewsworld.com/story/69936.html

-- 
Islam is a VERY backward religion, that MUST keep it's masses not only
in subjugation, but ignorant and maintain a feudal state that is always
at war, looking to take over the spoils of other societies. It is by
nature destructive and not constructive. The Q'oran is based on distortions
of the Bible, paganism, racism, hate, contradictions, and ignorance, with
a good dose of stupidity thrown in for good measure. -Fred A. Miller


From fmiller at lightlink.com  Thu May  6 18:20:09 2010
From: fmiller at lightlink.com (Fred A. Miller)
Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 18:20:09 -0400
Subject: [Linux4christians] We're about to get this garbage here!
Message-ID: <4BE34099.9030403@lightlink.com>

English preacher jailed for calling homosexuality a sin 
<http://feedproxy.google.com/%7Er/christiancoalition/%7E3/eUaMUpm0aoA/english_preacher_jailed_calling_homosexuality_sin?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email> 


Posted: 05 May 2010 10:46 AM PDT

So it's come to this (at least in England at this point...).  Several 
days ago (May 2nd), a Baptist preacher on the streets of Workington, 
Cumbria (Unitied Kingdom) became involved in a heated discussion with a 
pedestrian who disagreed and took offense when the preacher said that he 
believe that homosexuality was a sin.  But that wasn't the end of it.

It turns out that merry old England is a good bit farther down the 
"political correctness" road than America and, as a result, the preacher 
was put in jail for "abusive or insulting" language.

So how did it get to this point?  The law in question began with the 
English 1986 "Public Order Act", which was initially meant to deal with 
actual violence.  But like everything else having to do with government, 
it metastasized and grew into a legal code covering everything from 
violence and public disorder to simple speech that the hyper-sensitive, 
politically correct crowd (read: liberals) might be offended by.

In fact, the law has "evolved" to the point where they have "Police 
Community Support Officers" which are essentially busybody citizens who 
have power to enforce things like this speech code and, as you can 
guess, the offended liberal dutifully reporter the street preachers 
"hate speech" to one of these officers and he was arrested and thrown in 
jail. * read more ?* 
<http://www.cc.org/blog/english_preacher_jailed_calling_homosexuality_sin>

-- 
I call several liberals friends. Fortunately I don't require my friends to be
intelligent, able to think logically, or politically astute.

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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Thu May  6 23:41:21 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 22:41:21 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 10:1-14 (Friday)
Message-ID: <4BE38BE1.6010607@bibleseven.com>

*Genesis 10:1-14 (Friday)*


*NOTE:* In this special case I have included the footnote numbers. They 
did not convert well from

from the source to this document but many of them are necessary to 
clarify the text. Please read

through all of this as the value will become apparent.


/The Table of Nations /

/ /

/10:1 This is the account of Noah's sons Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Sons 
were born to them after the flood. /

/ /

/10:2 The sons of Japheth 4 were Gomer, 5 Magog, 6 Madai, 7 Javan, 8 
Tubal, 9 Meshech, 10 and Tiras. 11 10:3 The sons of Gomer were 12 
Askenaz, 13 Riphath, 14 and Togarmah. 15 10:4 The sons of Javan were 
Elishah, 16 Tarshish, 17 the Kittim, 18 and the Dodanim. 19 10:5 From 
these the coastlands of the nations were separated into their lands, 
every one according to its language, according to their families, by 
their nations. /

/ /

/10:6 The sons of Ham were Cush, 20 Mizraim, 21 Put, 22 and Canaan. 23 
10:7 The sons of Cush were Seba, 24 Havilah, 25 Sabtah, 26 Raamah, 27 
and Sabteca. 28 The sons of Raamah were Sheba 29 and Dedan. 30 /

/ /

/10:8 Cush was the father of 31 Nimrod; he began to be a valiant warrior 
on the earth. 10:9 He was a mighty hunter 32 before the Lord. 33 (That 
is why it is said, "Like Nimrod, a mighty hunter before the Lord.") 
10:10 The primary regions 34 of his kingdom were Babel, 35 Erech, 36 
Akkad, 37 and Calneh 38 in the land of Shinar. 39 10:11 From that land 
he went 40 to Assyria, 41 where he built Nineveh, 42 Rehoboth-Ir, 43 
Calah, 44 10:12 and Resen, which is between Nineveh and the great city 
Calah. 45 /

/ /

/10:13 Mizraim 46 was the father of 47 the Ludites, 48 Anamites, 49 
Lehabites, 50 Naphtuhites, 51 10:14 Pathrusites, 52 Casluhites 53 (from 
whom the Philistines came), 54 and Caphtorites. 55 /

*
Prayer:* Thank you that You are not a God of mystery in all things. When 
you tell Your story You include everything we need to know and then You 
help us to understand why You included what You included.


*Commentary*


Genesis 10 is labeled in the text "The Table of Nations "


Translator's note #3 observes "It appears that the Table of Nations is a 
composite of at least two ancient sources: Some sections begin with the 
phrase "the sons of" (??????, b?ne) while other sections use "begot" 
(?????, yalad). It may very well be that the "sons of" list was an old, 
"bare bones" list that was retained in the family records, while the 
"begot" sections were editorial inserts by the writer of Genesis, 
reflecting his special interests."


It is strongly recommended that the curious "student" of the Word visit 
the Bible.org resource:

http://net.bible.org/bible.php?book=Gen&chapter=10#n55 
<http://net.bible.org/bible.php?book=Gen&chapter=10#n55> where the 
translator's footnotes are to be

found. They have gone to great lengths to detail the generations and 
tribes and cities and nations that flowed from each of Noah's children. 
They also include references for further study. I have provided some 
excerpts below.

4 sn The Greek form of the name Japheth, Iapetos, is used in Greek 
tradition for the ancestor of the Greeks.

5 sn Gomer was the ancestor of the Cimmerians.

7 sn Madai was the ancestor of the Medes, who lived east of Assyria.

8 sn Javan was the father of the Hellenic race, the Ionians who lived in 
western Asia Minor.

9 sn Tubal was the ancestor of militaristic tribes that lived north of 
the Black Sea.

10 sn Meshech was the ancestor of the people known in Assyrian records 
as the Musku.

11 sn Tiras was the ancestor of the Thracians, some of whom possibly 
became the Pelasgian pirates of the Aegean.

12 sn The descendants of Gomer were all northern tribes of the Upper 
Euphrates.

13 sn Askenaz was the ancestor of a northern branch of Indo-Germanic 
tribes, possibly Scythians.

14 sn The descendants of Riphath lived in a district north of the road 
from Haran to Carchemish.

15 sn Togarmah is also mentioned in Ezek 38:6, where it refers to 
Til-garimmu, the capital of Kammanu, which bordered Tabal in eastern Turkey.

16 sn The descendants of Elishah populated Cyprus.

17 sn The descendants of Tarshish settled along the southern coast of 
what is modern Turkey. However, some identify the site Tarshish (see 
Jonah 1:3) with Sardinia or Spain.

18 sn The name Kittim is associated with Cyprus, as well as coastlands 
east of Rhodes. It is used in later texts to refer to the Romans.

19 tc Most of the MT mss read "Dodanim" here, but 1 Chr 1:7 has 
"Rodanim," perhaps referring to the island of Rhodes. But the Qere 
reading in 1 Chr 1:7 suggests "Dodanim." Dodona is one of the most 
ancient and revered spots in ancient Greece.

20 sn The descendants of Cush settled in Nubia (Ethiopia).

21 sn The descendants of Mizraim settled in Upper and Lower Egypt.

22 sn The descendants of Put settled in Libya.

23 sn The descendants of Canaan lived in the region of Phoenicia 
(Palestine).

24 sn The descendants of Seba settled in Upper Egypt along the Nile.

25 sn The Hebrew name Havilah apparently means "stretch of sand" (see 
HALOT 297 s.v. ????????). Havilah's descendants settled in eastern Arabia.

26 sn The descendants of Sabtah settled near the western shore of the 
Persian Gulf in ancient Hadhramaut.

27 sn The descendants of Raamah settled in southwest Arabia.

28 sn The descendants of Sabteca settled in Samudake, east toward the 
Persian Gulf.

29 sn Sheba became the name of a kingdom in southwest Arabia.

30 sn The name Dedan is associated with ?Ula in northern Arabia.

31 tn Heb "fathered." Embedded within Cush's genealogy is an account of 
Nimrod, a mighty warrior. There have been many attempts to identify him, 
but none are convincing. 32 tn The Hebrew word for "hunt" is ????? 
(tsayid), which is used on occasion for hunting men (1 Sam 24:12; Jer 
16:16; Lam 3:15). 33 tn Another option is to take the divine name here, 
??????? ?????? (lifne y?hvah, "before the Lord [YHWH]"), as a means of 
expressing the superlative degree. In this case one may translate 
"Nimrod was the greatest hunter in the world." The primary regions of 
his kingdom were Babel, 35 tn Or "Babylon." 35 Erech, 36 Erech (ancient 
Uruk, modern Warka), one of the most ancient civilizations, was located 
southeast of Babylon. Akkad, 37 ancient Agade, was associated with 
Sargon and located north of Babylon. and Calneh 38 in the land of 
Shinar. 39 Shinar is another name for Babylonia. 10:11 From that land he 
[Nimrod or Ashur, it is unclear) went 40 to Assyria, 41 where he built 
Nineveh, 42 [an ancient Assyrian city situated on the Tigris River. ] 
Rehoboth-Ir, 43 [means "and broad streets of a city," perhaps referring 
to a suburb of Nineveh. ] Calah, 44 [(modern Nimrud) was located twenty 
miles north of Nineveh. ] 10:12 and Resen, which is between Nineveh and 
the great city Calah. 45

46 sn Mizraim is the Hebrew name for Egypt (cf. NRSV).

48 sn The Ludites were African tribes west of the Nile Delta.

49 sn The Anamites lived in North Africa, west of Egypt, near Cyrene.

50 sn The Lehabites are identified with the Libyans.

51 sn The Naphtuhites lived in Lower Egypt (the Nile Delta region).

52 sn The Pathrusites are known in Egyptian as P-to-reshi; they resided 
in Upper Egypt.

53 sn The Casluhites lived in Crete and eventually settled east of the 
Egyptian Delta, between Egypt and Canaan.

54 tn Several commentators prefer to reverse the order of the words to 
put this clause after the next word, since the Philistines came from 
Crete (where the Caphtorites lived). But the table may suggest migration 
rather than lineage, and the Philistines, like the Israelites, came 
through the Nile Delta region of Egypt.

55 sn The Caphtorites resided in Crete, but in Egyptian literature 
Caphtor refers to "the region beyond" the Mediterranean.


*Interaction*


*Consider this:* There is nothing in the Word of God that is not there 
for a specific purpose. The several genealogies are there for 
"credibility", not that God needs credibility, but to establish the 
historic credibility of the Word in a transparent and verifiable manner.


*Discuss this:* Look closely at those who followed Ham, the son who 
disrespected Noah, and see how Noah's prophesy was fulfilled.


*Reflect on this:* Recall from the story of Jonah God's desire to 
provide a pathway to forgiveness to the citizens of Nineveh then 
remember from whom that cities founder flowed. Is God not merciful from 
generation to generation?


*Share this:* Do you know of a family or a community where there has 
been a long history of bad choices but where God has found an 
opportunity to shine the light of forgiveness and truth and there has 
been a break in that "generational curse"?


*Faith in Action*


*Prayer:* Ask the Holy Spirit to remind you every day of God's desire to 
redeem.


*Action:* I agree to spend some quiet time with the Holy Spirit to 
prayerfully seek awareness of a "generational curse" in my family (or 
community) which He has either broken or which He has shown a desire to 
break. I will celebrate His blessing where He has already done so (and 
will share that praise report with a fellow believer) and will make 
myself available to His liberating work if He is about to enter-into my 
family or community.


*Be Specific* 
_______________________________________________________________________


/
/*/Saturday's text will be:  Genesis 10:15-32/

*

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From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 21:02:28 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 10:15-32 (Saturday)
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*Genesis 10:15-32 (Saturday)*


/10:15 Canaan was the father of Sidon his firstborn, Heth, 10:16 the 
Jebusites, Amorites, Girgashites, 10:17 Hivites, Arkites, Sinites, 10:18 
Arvadites, Zemarites, and Hamathites. Eventually the families of the 
Canaanites were scattered 10:19 and the borders of Canaan extended from 
Sidon all the way to Gerar as far as Gaza, and all the way to Sodom, 
Gomorrah, Admah, and Zeboiim, as far as Lasha. 10:20 These are the sons 
of Ham, according to their families, according to their languages, by 
their lands, and by their nations. /

/ /

/10:21 And sons were also born to Shem (the older brother of Japheth), 
the father of all the sons of Eber. /

/ /

/10:22 The sons of Shem were Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud, and Aram. 
10:23 The sons of Aram were Uz, Hul, Gether, and Mash. 10:24 Arphaxad 
was the father of Shelah, and Shelah was the father of Eber. 10:25 Two 
sons were born to Eber: One was named Peleg because in his days the 
earth was divided, and his brother's name was Joktan. 10:26 Joktan was 
the father of Almodad, Sheleph, Hazarmaveth, Jerah, 10:27 Hadoram, Uzal, 
Diklah, 10:28 Obal, Abimael, Sheba, 10:29 Ophir, Havilah, and Jobab. All 
these were sons of Joktan. 10:30 Their dwelling place was from Mesha all 
the way to Sephar in the eastern hills. 10:31 These are the sons of Shem 
according to their families, according to their languages, by their 
lands, and according to their nations. /

/ /

/10:32 These are the families of the sons of Noah, according to their 
genealogies, by their nations, and from these the nations spread over 
the earth after the flood./


*Prayer:* Lord, thank You for showing us the "big picture" of history 
along with the more precise stories of Your relationships with 
individuals and groups.


*Commentary*


This text provides further detail of the dispersal of the people as they 
were obediently "fruitful" and they multiplied. It also reminds the 
readers that "languages and nations" accompanied groups of families in 
various regions.


It is worth noting that the text mentions a grandson of Shem and a son 
of Aram, named Uz. It was from the land of Uz that Abram was called by God.


The translator's note associated with Peleg, a descendant of Shem, reads 
"The expression "the earth was divided" may refer to dividing the land 
with canals, but more likely it anticipates the division of languages at 
Babel (Gen 11). The verb ?????? (palag, "separate, divide") is used in 
Ps 55:9 for a division of languages."



*Interaction*


*Consider this:* As the descendants of Noah multiplied they also spread 
geographically, resulting in changes to their common language and the 
creation of local communities or nations.


Discuss this: Look at your country and see the uniquenesses from region 
to region, even among people who are biologically and/or legally 
related, once they gain geological separation from one-another.


*Reflect on this:* God is not troubled by our local diversity, His 
concern is that we share Him in common.


*Share this:* When have you found that diversity has led to disinterest 
and/or confusion, if not dislike, perhaps even leading to conflict?


*Faith in Action*


*Prayer:* Ask the Holy Spirit to press into you the same comfort with 
diversity of color and language, culture and geography that God has for 
all who call Him Lord.


*Action:* I agree to partner with the Holy Spirit, and a prayerful 
fellow Christian, to search out any place in me where I may hold a bias 
against a fellow Christian because of differences that God has 
demonstrated are unimportant. I will then commit to intentionally purge 
those wrong thoughts.


*Be Specific* 
______________________________________________________________________


/*Sunday's text will be:  Genesis 11:1-9*/

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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Sat May  8 22:44:59 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 21:44:59 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 7:1-12 (Sunday)
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BibleSeven Bible Study and Devotion

Genesis Eleven, Twelve, & Thirteen

Commentary -- Interaction -- Faith in Action



/Chapters One and Two presented the Creation narrative with different 
emphasis./

/Chapter Three described Adam and Eve's horribly wrong choice and the 
devastating consequences./

/Chapter Four described early life after Eden./

/Chapters Five and Six describes the terrible failure of humankind to 
seek after God and His decision to destroy live on the earth and restart 
with a Noadic remnant./

/Chapters Seven and Eight conclude the Ark story./

/Chapters Nine and Ten contain God's early instructions to the survivors 
of the Flood, the sin of Ham, and the future genealogies of the 
descendants of Noah's sons./


*Genesis 7:1-12 (Sunday)*


/The Dispersion of the Nations at Babel /

/ /

/11:1 The whole earth had a common language and a common vocabulary. 
11:2 When the people moved eastward, they found a plain in Shinar and 
settled there. 11:3 Then they said to one another, "Come, let's make 
bricks and bake them thoroughly." (They had brick instead of stone and 
tar instead of mortar.) 11:4 Then they said, "Come, let's build 
ourselves a city and a tower with its top in the heavens so that we may 
make a name for ourselves. Otherwise we will be scattered across the 
face of the entire earth." /

/ /

/11:5 But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower that the 
people had started building. 11:6 And the Lord said, "If as one people 
all sharing a common language they have begun to do this, then nothing 
they plan to do will be beyond them. 11:7 Come, let's go down and 
confuse their language so they won't be able to understand each other." /

/ /

/11:8 So the Lord scattered them from there across the face of the 
entire earth, and they stopped building the city. 11:9 That is why its 
name was called Babel -- because there the Lord confused the language of 
the entire world, and from there the Lord scattered them across the face 
of the entire earth. /


*Prayer:* Lord, how quickly after Your demonstrations of mercy and of 
power do we forget Who You are and drift into arrogant rebellion. Thank 
You for the record of this cycle in Your Word which stands as a reminder 
to us.


*Commentary*


While the end of Chapter 10 spoke of "different languages" this text 
refers to a "common language and a "common vocabulary". It is reasonable 
to read the difference as Chapter 10 intending to communicate differing 
dialects rather than entirely different languages -- which makes good 
sense given the relatively brief time from the eight people on the Ark 
and the time of this text.


However, if one looks more closely at Chapter 10 one discovers that it 
was not all of the people on earth who are being spoken of here but one 
stream of descendants; it was Nimrod, son of Cush and grandson of the 
rebellious Ham - son of Noah - who settled in Shinar. (Gen. 10:8-10)


In their arrogance their rebellion took the form of building a massive 
tower as a rallying-point and symbol of their ability to get into "the 
heavens" without God, removing their perception of a need for God, and 
condemning them to generations of eternally lost people.


In His mercy, instead of destroying the city and the people and the 
tower, God confused their language -- fragmenting their sense of 
cohesion and complicating their communications -- so they gave up and 
dispersed. One of the sub-groups later went on to build the city of Nineveh.



*Interaction*


*Consider this:* The the Bible speaks of the sins of the father (Exo. 
20:5, 34:7; Deut 5:8; Num. 14:18), referring to the impact of rebellion, 
being passed down from generation to generation. We see this with Ham, 
just as God caused Noah to prophesy.


*Discuss this:* Why is it that humankind is so fond of building cities 
and towers, most of which are designed to serve as great monuments to 
man and not God?


*Reflect on this:* God could have wiped-out Shinar, renamed Babel by 
God, "... /because there the Lord confused the language of the entire 
world",/ but in His mercy He chose instead to make it so difficult for 
them that they gave up.


*Share this:* When have you rebelled against God and He found it 
necessary to make things so difficult that you turned-away from your 
rebellion? (It could have been the temptation to commit adultery, to 
cheat, to lie, to steal, etc. You may not have stopped right away but 
the consequences may have become more than you were willing to obey. It 
is not unusual that soon after being saved, within the first year, the 
Enemy brings temptation in ones weakest areas -- the same as he did to 
the generations soon after the Flood.) [Note: The Apostle Paul later 
wrote that one who repeats the same sin over and over and does not sense 
the chastising of the Holy Spirit does not have the Holy Spirit which 
means they are not saved, even if they think they are.]


*Faith in Action*


*Prayer:* Ask the Holy Spirit to reveal to you something that you need 
to deal with that is an act of rebellion against God, however small, 
something that you are ready to deal with.


*Action:* I agree to cooperate with the Holy Spirit, and to engage a 
prayer-partner, as I identify and deal with a place of rebellion in my 
life rather than waiting for God to have to take sterner measures to 
separate me from my sin.


*Be Specific* 
_______________________________________________________________________



*/Monday's text will be:  Genesis 7:13-24/

*

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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Sun May  9 01:38:18 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Sun, 09 May 2010 00:38:18 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 7:1-12 (Sunday) - CORRECTION
In-Reply-To: <4BE621AB.9020606@bibleseven.com>
References: <4BE621AB.9020606@bibleseven.com>
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CORRECTION:

"... consequences may have become more than you were willing to obey."

["obey" should read "bear"]
*

Share this:* When have you rebelled against God and He found it 
necessary to make things so difficult that you turned-away from your 
rebellion? (It could have been the temptation to commit adultery, to 
cheat, to lie, to steal, etc. You may not have stopped right away but 
the consequences may have become more than you were willing to obey. It 
is not unusual that soon after being saved, within the first year, the 
Enemy brings temptation in ones weakest areas -- the same as he did to 
the generations soon after the Flood.) [Note: The Apostle Paul later 
wrote that one who repeats the same sin over and over and does not sense 
the chastising of the Holy Spirit does not have the Holy Spirit which 
means they are not saved, even if they think they are.]

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From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Sun, 09 May 2010 20:17:41 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 11:10-32 (Monday)
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NOTE:  Two small corrections:

Sunday's Study was mislabeled but was the correct text: *Genesis 11:1-9 
(Sunday)*
Monday's text was also mislabeled, it has been corrected, see following:


*Genesis 11:10-32 (Monday)*


/The Genealogy of Shem /

/ /

/11:10 This is the account of Shem. /

/ /

/Shem was 100 years old when he became the father of Arphaxad, two years 
after the flood. 11:11 And after becoming the father of Arphaxad, Shem 
lived 500 years and had other sons and daughters. /

/ /

/11:12 When Arphaxad had lived 35 years, he became the father of Shelah. 
11:13 And after he became the father of Shelah, Arphaxad lived 403 years 
and had other sons and daughters. /

/ /

/11:14 When Shelah had lived 30 years, he became the father of Eber. 
11:15 And after he became the father of Eber, Shelah lived 403 years and 
had other sons and daughters. /

/ /

/11:16 When Eber had lived 34 years, he became the father of Peleg. 
11:17 And after he became the father of Peleg, Eber lived 430 years and 
had other sons and daughters. /

/ /

/11:18 When Peleg had lived 30 years, he became the father of Reu. 11:19 
And after he became the father of Reu, Peleg lived 209 years and had 
other sons and daughters. /

/ /

/11:20 When Reu had lived 32 years, he became the father of Serug. 11:21 
And after he became the father of Serug, Reu lived 207 years and had 
other sons and daughters. /

/ /

/11:22 When Serug had lived 30 years, he became the father of Nahor. 
11:23 And after he became the father of Nahor, Serug lived 200 years and 
had other sons and daughters. /

/ /

/11:24 When Nahor had lived 29 years, he became the father of Terah. 
11:25 And after he became the father of Terah, Nahor lived 119 years and 
had other sons and daughters. /

/ /

/11:26 When Terah had lived 70 years, he became the father of Abram, 
Nahor, and Haran. /

/The Record of Terah /

/ /

/11:27 This is the account of Terah. /

/ /

/Terah became the father of Abram, Nahor, and Haran. And Haran became 
the father of Lot. 11:28 Haran died in the land of his birth, in Ur of 
the Chaldeans, while his father Terah was still alive./

/11:29 And Abram and Nahor took wives for themselves. The name of 
Abram's wife was Sarai, and the name of Nahor's wife was Milcah; she was 
the daughter of Haran, the father of both Milcah and Iscah. 11:30 But 
Sarai was barren; she had no children. /

/ /

/11:31 Terah took his son Abram, his grandson Lot (the son of Haran), 
and his daughter-in-law Sarai, his son Abram's wife, and with them he 
set out from Ur of the Chaldeans to go to Canaan. When they came to 
Haran, they settled there. 11:32 The lifetime of Terah was 205 years, 
and he died in Haran. /


*Prayer: Lord, while You allowed sin to have its way with the bodies -- 
lifespan -- of humankind Your hand is clear as it guided the sovereign 
thread of Your perfect plan amidst the chaos and confusion of Fallen 
Creation.*


*Commentary*


The genealogy of the descendants of Shem is remarkable as it 
demonstrates the rapidly declining life-span of humankind as the impact 
of the Fall, due to multiple variables, took its toll.


Seven generations later the genealogy of Terah records some better known 
names, those of Abram, Lot, and Sarai, and regions -- those of Ur of the 
Chaldeans and Caanan.


Abram's wife, Sarai, does not have her genealogy stated in this section 
of text. She is, remarkable as she was "barren", and given the emphasis 
of God upon reproduction at that time it was a difficult circumstance 
for her and Abram.


Haran's wife is neither named nor is her genealogy cited.


Nahor's wife was Haran's daughter Milcah, his niece.



*Interaction*


*Consider this:* In old English versions of the New Testament it is 
written "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal 
life through Jesus Christ our Lord." In Genesis 11:10-24 the shortened 
lifespan of humankind bears plain evidence of "the wages of sin".


*Discuss this:* Among a people "recently" commissioned by God to "go 
forth and multiply" and surrounded by the children and grandchildren of 
Abram's brothers, how must Abram and Sarai have suffered emotionally? 
How often might they have pleaded to God to give them a child? Compare 
this to the New Testament where God's emphasis is on salvific 
reproduction rather than biological.


*Reflect on this:* God provides a clear map of the genealogy of Abram 
and his shared "need" together with his wife Sarai, clearly He is 
preparing the reader for the story to follow.


*Share this:* When have you desired something that you believed to be 
God's will only to have "roadblocks" arise repeatedly to block your 
path? How did that impact your relationship with God?


*Faith in Action*


*Prayer:* Ask the Holy Spirit to amplify His presence as you seek 
awareness of current and past occasions where He was teaching you 
dependence and patience upon God.


*Action:* I agree to prayerfully assess my past and present for evidence 
of God's hand in my life, holding me back when I was rushing ahead of 
His timing, testing my faith in His perfect provision and timing -- and 
in the keeping of His promises, and strengthening me along the way.


*Be Specific* 
_______________________________________________________________________


/*Tuesday's text will be:  Genesis 12:1-3*/




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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Mon May 10 23:09:32 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 22:09:32 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 12:1-3 (Tuesday)
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*Genesis 12:1-3 (Tuesday)*


/The Obedience of Abram /

/ /

/12:1 Now the Lord said to Abram, "Go out from your country, your 
relatives, and your father's household to the land that I will show you. /

/ /

/12:2 Then I will make you into a great nation, and I will bless you, 
and I will make your name great, /

/ so that you will exemplify divine blessing. /

/ /

/12:3 I will bless those who bless you, but the one who treats you 
lightly I must curse, and all the families of the earth will bless one 
another by your name." /


*Prayer:* Lord, I am Yours, please send me so that I may be Your conduit 
of blessing to others.


*Commentary*


First Abram's father Terah moved them from their home in Uz and now God 
instructs Abram to travel even further, leaving his remaining family and 
friends behind. He was to be completely dependent on God.


God promises to reward Abram's faithful obedience in great ways.


God also promises to defend Abram.


*Interaction*


*Consider this:* Abram was already struggling with Sarai's infertility 
yet he still stepped out in faith when God sent him.


*Discuss this:* When has God asked you to go somewhere unfamiliar (not 
necessarily geographical but perhaps a different role in ministry or a 
different job or different social group) and you were already struggling 
some with an unmet desire that you believed to be on God's list of good 
things?


*Reflect on this:* God not only promised to bless Abram, He also 
promised to protect Him.


*Share this:* When have you stepped out in faith with the assurance that 
God would bless you, bless others through you, provide for you, and 
protect you -- and He did?


*Faith in Action*


*Prayer:* Ask the Holy Spirit to challenge you with something new.


*Action:* Prayerfully demonstrate your faith in God by partnering with 
Him to "go forth" a little outside your "comfort zone", trusting Him to 
bless you, bless others through you, provide for you, and protect you. 
Resist the temptation to place any limits on God.


*Be Specific* 
_______________________________________________________________________


*/Wednesday's text will be:  Genesis 12:4-7/

*

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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Tue May 11 22:59:39 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 21:59:39 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 12:4-7 (Wednesday)
Message-ID: <4BEA199B.2060603@bibleseven.com>

*Genesis 12:4-7 (Wednesday)*


/12:4 So Abram left, just as the Lord had told him to do, and Lot went 
with him. (Now Abram was 75 years old when he departed from Haran.) 12:5 
And Abram took his wife Sarai, his nephew Lot, and all the possessions 
they had accumulated and the people they had acquired in Haran, and they 
left for the land of Canaan. They entered the land of Canaan. /

/ /

/12:6 Abram traveled through the land as far as the oak tree of Moreh at 
Shechem. (At that time the Canaanites were in the land.) 12:7 The Lord 
appeared to Abram and said, "To your descendants I will give this land." 
So Abram built an altar there to the Lord, who had appeared to him. /


*Prayer:* Lord, find us bold and courageous like Abram, surrendering 
comfort for obedience.


*Commentary*


Abram obeys the Lord and takes a huge entourage along with him; his 
immediate family, his extended family (Lot and others), their many 
physical possessions, and their servants "people acquired in Haran".


The traveled to Canaan which had been founded by the rebellious Ham and 
his equally rebellious descendants. The land, the "Promised Land" was 
currently occupied by the Canaanites. There God promises that land to 
Abram and his descendants but does not instruct him to take immediate 
possession thereof.


Abram traveled to a specific oak tree in a specific location "Shechem", 
a location to which Joshua would return in Joshua 24, and there the Lord 
"appeared" to him and he in reverence build an altar to the Lord.


Literal references to "oak tree" occur 20 times across the Old Testament 
and most of them refer to important moments, generally moments of 
celebration, memorial, sacrifice, or worship.


*Interaction*


*Consider this:* Abram's leadership was powerful as many chose to follow 
him into lands unknown to them.


*Discuss this:* The patience of Abram reminds one of Noah; he labored 
and waited 100 years before God brought the rains that would float the 
Ark and waited another year on the Ark. Have you found your patience 
with the Lord short? Does reading these texts chastise you to grow your 
patience?


*Reflect on this:* God uses not only the specific "oak tree" symbolism 
many times in the Old Testament but uses "oak" for strength and "tree" 
as a metaphor and a physical reality throughout the Old and New 
Testament, including of course the Cross.


*Share this:* What has God used in your life as a symbolic 
rallying-point of faith? Is it a meaningful Bible-centered song, a 
geographical location, or perhaps even literally a tree?


*Faith in Action*


*Prayer:* Ask the Holy Spirit to find you bold in action and in 
leadership yet humble to stop and worship God every time He shows His 
presence to you.


*Action:* Share with a fellow believer how the Lord is causing you to 
"move", or how He is prompting you to "move", and what He is doing or 
has done to show you that He is in it. Your "move" may be out of one 
ministry and into another, a geographical move, an employment move, a 
discipleship move to increase your maturity, a church move for doctrinal 
or ministry-call reasons, or perhaps a move in your lifestyle toward a 
more righteous direction.


*Be Specific* 
_______________________________________________________________________


/
/*/Thursday's text will be:  Genesis 12:8-20/

*

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From fmiller at lightlink.com  Wed May 12 02:12:51 2010
From: fmiller at lightlink.com (Fred A. Miller)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 02:12:51 -0400
Subject: [Linux4christians] This info. is right on time for David!
Message-ID: <4BEA46E3.3050101@lightlink.com>

UPDATE - New attack bypasses EVERY Windows security product 
<http://ct.zdnet.com/clicks?t=541491882-f09aff1f3240c763b781087d83996fa3-bf&brand=ZDNET&s=5>

Are you a Windows user? Do you make sure that your antivirus program is 
updated regularly? Do you feel safe? You shouldn't! Read on to find out 
why ...

-- 
"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people,
except for a few public officials." -- George Mason

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From webservant at trinitybclaramie.org  Wed May 12 10:50:42 2010
From: webservant at trinitybclaramie.org (Peter B. Steiger)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 08:50:42 -0600
Subject: [Linux4christians] This info. is right on time for David!
In-Reply-To: <4BEA46E3.3050101@lightlink.com>
References: <4BEA46E3.3050101@lightlink.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilPo-H-kehGJFSwEPm6tejz9nQzoJ87VsDdm3j-@mail.gmail.com>

My favorite line:
*Mac and Linux users, feel free to engage ?smug mode? for a little while ?*

Funny thing is, I was already doing that before he said I could.  For my
Windows friends, the advice is the same: Never ever ever ever ever (etc.)
click on a link or attachment that you don't know BOTH where it originally
came from and why you received it, even if it came from your sainted mother
or "that dude who knows everything about computers".

On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 12:12 AM, Fred A. Miller <fmiller at lightlink.com>wrote:

>  UPDATE - New attack bypasses EVERY Windows security product<http://ct.zdnet.com/clicks?t=541491882-f09aff1f3240c763b781087d83996fa3-bf&brand=ZDNET&s=5>
>
> Are you a Windows user? Do you make sure that your antivirus program is
> updated regularly? Do you feel safe? You shouldn't! Read on to find out why
> ...
>
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From d.kuntadi at gmail.com  Wed May 12 12:06:57 2010
From: d.kuntadi at gmail.com (David Kuntadi)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 23:06:57 +0700
Subject: [Linux4christians] This info. is right on time for David!
In-Reply-To: <4BEA46E3.3050101@lightlink.com>
References: <4BEA46E3.3050101@lightlink.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin8S6YTXXUHsnXo9KcvEMZVVxRIya4BUlUI3_9J@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Fred A. Miller <fmiller at lightlink.com> wrote:
> UPDATE - New attack bypasses EVERY Windows security product
>
> Are you a Windows user? Do you make sure that your antivirus program is
> updated regularly? Do you feel safe? You shouldn't! Read on to find out why

Is this info for me or other David?

DK

From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Wed May 12 19:14:06 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 18:14:06 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 12:8-20 (Thursday)
Message-ID: <4BEB363E.9070209@bibleseven.com>

*Genesis 12:8-20 (Thursday)*


/12:8 Then he moved from there to the hill country east of Bethel and 
pitched his tent, with Bethel on the west and Ai on the east. There he 
built an altar to the Lord and worshiped the Lord. 12:9 Abram 
continually journeyed by stages down to the Negev. /

/The Promised Blessing Jeopardized /

/ /

/12:10 There was a famine in the land, so Abram went down to Egypt to 
stay for a while because the famine was severe. 12:11 As he approached 
Egypt, he said to his wife Sarai, "Look, I know that you are a beautiful 
woman. 12:12 When the Egyptians see you they will say, 'This is his 
wife.' Then they will kill me but will keep you alive. 12:13 So tell 
them you are my sister so that it may go well for me because of you and 
my life will be spared on account of you." /

/ /

/12:14 When Abram entered Egypt, the Egyptians saw that the woman was 
very beautiful. 12:15 When Pharaoh's officials saw her, they praised her 
to Pharaoh. So Abram's wife was taken into the household of Pharaoh, 
12:16 and he did treat Abram well on account of her. Abram received 
sheep and cattle, male donkeys, male servants, female servants, female 
donkeys, and camels. /

/ /

/12:17 But the Lord struck Pharaoh and his household with severe 
diseases because of Sarai, Abram's wife. 12:18 So Pharaoh summoned Abram 
and said, "What is this you have done to me? Why didn't you tell me that 
she was your wife? 12:19 Why did you say, 'She is my sister,' so that I 
took her to be my wife? Here is your wife! Take her and go!" 12:20 
Pharaoh gave his men orders about Abram, and so they expelled him, along 
with his wife and all his possessions. /



*Prayer: * Lord, help us to learn from this text that when we 
misrepresent ourselves to others we may cause them to make wrong choice 
and may even lead them into harm.



*Commentary*


Once again Abram pauses in his busy travels to worship the Lord and to 
build an altar to Him.


The NET translator's notes explain that Abram was in a nomadic mode, 
continuously moving through "the South [country]," and that "/Negev/ is 
the name for the southern desert region in the land of Canaan."


Because there were persistent drought conditions in the Negev Abram 
decides to travel to Egypt in search of food and water for his family 
and entourage. Having some awareness of the practices of local leaders 
he feared for the safety of his family because Sarai was "very 
beautiful". His expectation was if they knew her to be his wife they 
would make her a widow so they'd be free to take her, but if they lied 
and said she was his sister than he might be able to better position 
himself during negotiations to escape once he announced she was his wife.


No knowing that Sarai was Abram's wife Pharaoh has her taken without 
negotiation and compensates Abram with a variety of animals and gifts. 
God, true to His Word, defends Abram's family and strikes "/Pharaoh and 
his household with severe diseases because of Sarai"/


Pharaoh is selectively indignant at Abram for deceiving him and causing 
him trouble with God, forgetting that he had kidnapped one whom he 
believed to be Abram's sister with the intent of forcing her to be his wife.


He immediately sets her free and expelled them all from Egypt.


*Interaction*


*Consider this:* The translator's notes state that Sarai was indeed his 
sister. We were not previously told this in the prior Genesis text. His 
full disclosure would have been to say that she was both his sister and 
his wife, and his trust of God would have had him trust God to protect 
them all.


*Discuss this:* Why would Pharaoh think it was OK to kidnap a man's 
daughter and force her to be his wife?


*Reflect on this:* Even though Abram was foolish for not trusting God to 
provide and to protect, God keeps His Word and defends Abram's family.


*Share this:* When has your misrepresentation, due to fear of some sort, 
led to a misunderstanding?


*Faith in Action*


*Prayer:* Ask the Holy Spirit to show you how He has provided for and 
protected you in the past.


*Action:* I will do something difficult that the Holy Spirit has been 
prompting me to do, I will trust Him to provide and to protect, and I 
will do all things with integrity so that none are led into harm because 
of me.


*Be Specific* 
_______________________________________________________________________


/*Friday's text will be:  Genesis 13:1-11a

*/

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"Learning to love like Jesus."  Eph. 4:2
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From fmiller at lightlink.com  Thu May 13 04:43:48 2010
From: fmiller at lightlink.com (Fred A. Miller)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 04:43:48 -0400
Subject: [Linux4christians] This info. is right on time for David!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin8S6YTXXUHsnXo9KcvEMZVVxRIya4BUlUI3_9J@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BEA46E3.3050101@lightlink.com>
	<AANLkTin8S6YTXXUHsnXo9KcvEMZVVxRIya4BUlUI3_9J@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BEBBBC4.2050307@lightlink.com>

On 05/12/2010 12:06 PM, David Kuntadi wrote:
> On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Fred A. Miller <fmiller at lightlink.com> wrote:
>   
>> UPDATE - New attack bypasses EVERY Windows security product
>>
>> Are you a Windows user? Do you make sure that your antivirus program is
>> updated regularly? Do you feel safe? You shouldn't! Read on to find out why
>>     
> Is this info for me or other David?
>   

Other. ;)

Fred

-- 
I call several liberals friends. Fortunately I don't require my friends to be 
intelligent, able to think logically, or politically astute.


From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Thu May 13 17:26:11 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 16:26:11 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] CORRECTION from Thursday's Bible Study
Message-ID: <4BEC6E73.6030902@bibleseven.com>

CORRECTION from Thursday's Bible Study:

This:
"Discuss this: Why would Pharaoh think it was OK to kidnap 
a man's *daughter* and force her to be his wife?"

Should read:

Discuss this: Why would Pharaoh think it was OK to kidnap 
a man's *sister* and force her to be his wife?"




-- 

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Have an http://Ultrafidian.com Day!  Pastor David
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Bible Commentary & Daily Reflection-Action-Devotional
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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Thu May 13 22:09:53 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 21:09:53 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 13:1-11a (Friday)
Message-ID: <4BECB0F1.3030004@bibleseven.com>

*Genesis 13:1-11a (Friday)*


/Abram's Solution to the Strife /

/ /

/13:1 So Abram went up from Egypt into the Negev. He took his wife and 
all his possessions with him, as well as Lot. 13:2 (Now Abram was very 
wealthy in livestock, silver, and gold.) /

/ /

/13:3 And he journeyed from place to place from the Negev as far as 
Bethel. He returned to the place where he had pitched his tent at the 
beginning, between Bethel and Ai. 13:4 This was the place where he had 
first built the altar, and there Abram worshiped the Lord. /

/ /

/13:5 Now Lot, who was traveling with Abram, also had flocks, herds, and 
tents. 13:6 But the land could not support them while they were living 
side by side. Because their possessions were so great, they were not 
able to live alongside one another. 13:7 So there were quarrels between 
Abram's herdsmen and Lot's herdsmen. (Now the Canaanites and the 
Perizzites were living in the land at that time.) /

/ /

/13:8 Abram said to Lot, "Let there be no quarreling between me and you, 
and between my herdsmen and your herdsmen, for we are close relatives. 
13:9 Is not the whole land before you? Separate yourself now from me. If 
you go to the left, then I'll go to the right, but if you go to the 
right, then I'll go to the left." /

/ /

/13:10 Lot looked up and saw the whole region of the Jordan. He noticed 
that all of it was well-watered (before the Lord obliterated Sodom and 
Gomorrah) like the garden of the Lord, like the land of Egypt, all the 
way to Zoar. 13:11a Lot chose for himself the whole region of the Jordan 
and traveled toward the east. /

*Prayer:* Lord, may I learn anew about grace toward "family" [In the NT 
the parallel context is not biological or legal but speaks of fellow 
believers.] and trust in You when confronted with conflict about resources.


*Commentary*


By the time that Abram had been expelled from Egypt God has blessed him 
with many possessions, some from the Egyptian Pharoah.


Abram returned to the formerly dought-stricken Negev, and after some 
additional nomadic life returned to the location when God had "met" him 
and where he had erected an altar, where he again worshipped the Lord.


His entourage had continued to grow as the flocks and people multiplied 
and the time came where Lot's herdsmen and Abram's quarreled due to 
limited areas of fertile grazing apart from those in use by the current 
residents "... /the Canaanites and the Perizzites"./


Abram gave Lot the first choice of and and he took the best-watered 
most-fertile he could see in the Jordan valley to the East.


*Interaction*


*Consider this:* Although Abram had made some poor choices God continued 
to keep His promise.


*Discuss this:* Despite his wife Sarah being kidnapped, his being 
expelled from Egypt, and his circular travels in the Negev, Abram still 
took time to worship the Lord. How often have you found this response 
among self-declared Christians in the midst of difficulty?


*Reflect on this:* The text observes that the Jordan valley was at that 
time still ".../ well- watered ... like the garden of the Lord"./ It 
also notes that this is /"(before the Lord obliterated Sodom and 
Gomorrah)"./


*Share this:* When have you been caught in a struggled with fellow 
believers for resources has someone, you or another, modeled their 
response after Abram and given first choice to the other?


*Faith in Action*


*Prayer:* Ask the Holy Spirit to remind you of God's promise to protect 
and provide, to bless and to multiply.


*Action:* I agree to persue an opportunity for God to bless another in 
order to multiply those in His eternal family, despite the appearance 
that I will have to allow a fellow believer to choose the best of the 
resources first, and despite the troubles I have recently endured. As I 
walk through this act of faith I will remember to stop and worship the 
Lord frequently.


*Be Specific* 
_______________________________________________________________________


*/Saturday's text will be:  Genesis 13:11b-18:21-22/

*

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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Fri May 14 23:14:19 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 22:14:19 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 13:11b-18:21-22 (Saturday)
Message-ID: <4BEE118B.9070803@bibleseven.com>

*Genesis 13:11b-18:21-22 (Saturday)*


/13:11b So the relatives separated from each other. 13:12 Abram settled 
in the land of Canaan, but Lot settled among the cities of the Jordan 
plain and pitched his tents next to Sodom. 13:13 (Now the people of 
Sodom were extremely wicked rebels against the Lord.) /

/ /

/13:14 After Lot had departed, the Lord said to Abram, "Look from the 
place where you stand to the north, south, east, and west. 13:15 I will 
give all the land that you see to you and your descendants forever. 
13:16 And I will make your descendants like the dust of the earth, so 
that if anyone is able to count the dust of the earth, then your 
descendants also can be counted. 13:17 Get up and walk throughout the 
land, for I will give it to you." /

/ /

/13:18 So Abram moved his tents and went to live by the oaks of Mamre in 
Hebron, and he built an altar to the Lord there./

*
*

*Prayer:* Lord, I ask that you write on my heart the lesson you have for 
me which illustrates the important difference between Lot and Abram.


*Commentary*


Lot responded to Abram's generosity in Gen. 13:10-11a by choosing with 
his eyes, selecting the best-watered area, even though it was 
dangerously close to the infamously sin-filled city of Sodom.


Abram settled in Canaan.


God spoke to Abram and promised him all of the land and that he would 
have "... /descendants /[in number]/ like the dust of the earth/."


God told Abram to "walk" or move about the land which He would give him 
and Abram did so -- pausing in Mamre in Hebron to build another altar to 
God.



*Interaction*


*Consider this:*  Lot demonstrates a reliance on the flesh rather than 
on the Lord which places both himself and those with him in both 
spiritual and physical harms-way.


*Discuss this:*  While Lot rushed off to claim the best looking land 
Abram chose to see the path chosen for him by God. What have those 
choices looked like in your life?


*Reflect on this:*  Lot made a decision unnecessarily be near a 
spiritually and physically dangerous place because he wanted the best 
looking land -- is that the mark of a good leader?



*Share this:* When have you had a choice like this to make? Did you 
choose among the alternatives the way that would repeatedly test your 
obedience to God "dancing too close to the fire" or the way that leads 
toward righteousness? What happened?


*Faith in Action*


*Prayer:* Ask the Holy Spirit to challenge your choice-making -- to 
reflect a desire toward righteous rather than constant temptation.


*Action:* I will share with a fellow believer a choice with which I have 
struggled, one where I may choose to go where the challenge will 
constantly be between "how close to the fire can I dance without getting 
burned" and "how righteous can I live". I will ask them to pray 
in-agreement that I will honor God in my choices and I will 
intentionally open the windows and doors to the Holy Spirit that He will 
enlighten and refresh my thinking.


*Be Specific* 
______________________________________________________________________


*/Sunday's text will be: Genesis 14:1-9/
*



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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Sat May 15 19:47:41 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 18:47:41 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 14:1-9 (Sunday)
Message-ID: <4BEF329D.6090100@bibleseven.com>

BibleSeven Bible Study and Devotion

Genesis Fourteen - Fifteen

Commentary -- Interaction -- Faith in Action



/Chapters One and Two presented the Creation narrative with different 
emphasis./

/Chapter Three described Adam and Eve's horribly wrong choice and the 
devastating consequences./

/Chapter Four described early life after Eden./

/Chapters Five and Six describes the terrible failure of humankind to 
seek after God and His decision to destroy live on the earth and restart 
with a Noadic remnant./

/Chapters Seven and Eight conclude the Ark story./

/Chapters Nine and Ten contain God's early instructions to the survivors 
of the Flood, the sin of Ham, and the future genealogies of the 
descendants of Noah's sons./

/Chapters Eleven, Twelve, and Thirteen describe the dispersal of the 
nations, Abram's travels, the kidnapping of Sarai, and the parting of 
Abram and Lot./


*Genesis 14:1-9 (Sunday)*


/Genesis 14 /

/The Blessing of Victory for God's People /

/ /

/14:1 At that time Amraphel king of Shinar, Arioch king of Ellasar, 
Kedorlaomer king of Elam, and Tidal king of nations 14:2 went to war 
against Bera king of Sodom, Birsha king of Gomorrah, Shinab king of 
Admah, Shemeber king of Zeboiim, and the king of Bela (that is, Zoar). 
14:3 These last five kings joined forces in the Valley of Siddim (that 
is, the Salt Sea). 14:4 For twelve years they had served Kedorlaomer, 
but in the thirteenth year they rebelled. 14:5 In the fourteenth year, 
Kedorlaomer and the kings who were his allies came and defeated the 
Rephaites in Ashteroth Karnaim, the Zuzites in Ham, the Emites in Shaveh 
Kiriathaim, 14:6 and the Horites in their hill country of Seir, as far 
as El Paran, which is near the desert. 14:7 Then they attacked En 
Mishpat (that is, Pradesh) again, and they conquered all the territory 
of the Amalekites, as well as the Amorites who were living in Hazazon 
Tamar. /

/ /

/14:8 Then the king of Sodom, the king of Gomorrah, the king of Admah, 
the king of Zeboiim, and the king of Bela (that is, Zoar) went out and 
prepared for battle. In the Valley of Siddim they met 14:9 Kedorlaomer 
king of Elam, Tidal king of nations, Amraphel king of Shinar, and Arioch 
king of Ellasar. Four kings fought against five. 14:10 Now the Valley of 
Siddim was full of tar pits. When the kings of Sodom and Gomorrah fled, 
they fell into them, but some survivors fled to the hills. 14:11 The 
four victorious kings took all the possessions and food of Sodom and 
Gomorrah and left. 14:12 They also took Abram's nephew Lot and his 
possessions when they left, for Lot was living in Sodom. /

/ /

/ /


/ /

/ /

*Prayer:* Lord, many times our decision to choose the proximity of 
people prone to conflict and rebellion may result in danger to 
ourselves. My we consider carefully your message here.


*Commentary*


Not many generations after Noah humankind has fragmented into warring 
fiefdoms, in this case one "king" had pressured others into "paying 
tribute" or "protection money" in exchange for freedom from attack -- by 
him.


Several of the kings decide that they no longer chose to pay tribute and 
rebel. The dominant king gathers other loyal kings and attack, 
conquering the others, expanding their territory, and carrying off many 
spoils.


The kings of the chronically-sinful city-states of Sodom and of Gomorrah 
fell into tar pits and perished.


Swept up in the conquest of the invading kings was Abram's nephew, Lot, 
who was taken along with his family and resources.


*Interaction*


*Consider this:* Lot knew that Sodom was a city-state prone to rebellion 
against God and in a state of disharmony with its aggressive and 
domineering neighbors, yet still he still chose to settle his family in 
that region.


*Discuss this:* Just as unbelievers may be blessed to be in the 
proximity of believers who God may choose to bless, and thereby benefit 
from some of that blessing, is not the corollary true?


*Reflect on this:* The rebellion against the oppression of their 
neighboring city-state appears to have been ill-conceived. Not only did 
they not recognize the military superiority of their enemy but they also 
appeared to have little awareness of dangers in their own back yard (the 
tar pits).


*Share this:* When have you suffered because of a conflict involving a 
person or group -- a conflict you neither started nor voluntarily 
joined, but you were caught-up in it because you were somehow near to 
them physically or through a business, personal, or other association?


*Faith in Action*


*Prayer:* Ask the Holy Spirit to find you teachable as He shows you the 
potential negative consequences of some of your associations.


*Action:* Make a list of business, personal, and other associations. 
List the positives and negatives. Rate them on a risk-scale as to 
probability of conflict with others. Prayerfully assess if your 
association is wise or if it exposes you to temptation or other 
unnecessary threats.


*Be Specific* 
_______________________________________________________________________


*/Monday's text will be:  Genesis 14:13-16/

*

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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Sun May 16 20:21:02 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 19:21:02 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 14:13-16 (Monday)
Message-ID: <4BF08BEE.8020600@bibleseven.com>

*Genesis 14:13-16 (Monday)*


/14:13 A fugitive came and told Abram the Hebrew. Now Abram was living 
by the oaks of Mamre the Amorite, the brother of Eshcol and Aner. (All 
these were allied by treaty with Abram.) /


/14:14 When Abram heard that his nephew had been taken captive, he 
mobilized his 318 trained men who had been born in his household, and he 
pursued the invaders as far as Dan. /


/14:15 Then, during the night, Abram divided his forces against them and 
defeated them. He chased them as far as Hobah, which is north of 
Damascus. /


/14:16 He retrieved all the stolen property. He also brought back his 
nephew Lot and his possessions, as well as the women and the rest of the 
people. /


*Prayer:* Lord, You have promised to defend those who love and obey You, 
may this piece of Biblical history be written on our hearts for those 
moments when we falter and doubt You.


*Commentary*


The various families/people-groups/tribes had developed alliances in 
order to defend themselves against others, Abram was allied with Mamre 
the Amorite, Eshcol, and Aner. As soon as he heard of Lot's capture he 
triggered an allied response.


It is notable that their fighting-force was small, as was also the 
indication of the battle in which Lot was swept-up, these are not the 
more epic battles of thousands that would come later.


Abram's 318 men not only defeated the enemy, they "divided" as a 
strategic advantage and then pursued the fleeing enemy to retrieve what 
they had stolen -- including Lot and his family.


*Interaction*


*Consider this:* There is nothing new about alliances, evil men plotting 
to take what is not theirs, and wars motivated on one side by greed and 
on the other by the desire to preserve freedom.


*Discuss this:* Do you agree with Abram's decision to go to war to 
rescue Lot?


*Reflect on this:* Do modern-day Christians stand together when one of 
the "family" is improperly attacked?


*Share this:* When have you come alongside someone who has been 
improperly attacked?


*Faith in Action*


*Prayer:*  Ask the Holy Spirit to help you to discern what is important 
enough to fight for and what is not.


*Action:*  I agree to join with a spiritually-mature fellow believer and 
to make a list of the people and/or things of which we believe to be 
worth (in a Biblically-faithful context as New Testament Christians) a 
"fight"; this may mean a verbal confrontation, a legal confrontation, a 
political action, physical self-defense (or physical intervention in the 
defense of another), and even war. We will pray over our lists several 
times a day for several days and then revisit them, then we will share 
them with a spiritual leader (deacon-elder, elder, pastor, 
counseling-elder, etc.) for their perspective, and again we will gather 
with our "partner" in the exercise to finalize our lists.


*Be Specific* 
_______________________________________________________________________


*/Tuesday's text will be:  Genesis 14:17-24/

*

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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Mon May 17 20:58:00 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 19:58:00 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 14:17-24 (Tuesday)
Message-ID: <4BF1E618.8040200@bibleseven.com>

There was a numbering error the past three days, here
are the corrections:
Saturday:  13:11b-18
Sunday:  14:1-12
Monday:  14:13-16*


*

*Genesis 14:17-24 (Tuesday)*


/14:17 After Abram returned from defeating Kedorlaomer and the kings who 
were with him, the king of Sodom went out to meet Abram in the Valley of 
Shaveh (known as the King's Valley). /


/14:18 Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine. (Now he was 
the priest of the Most High God.)/


/14:19 He blessed Abram, saying, Blessed be Abram by the Most High God, 
Creator of heaven and earth. 14:20a Worthy of praise is the Most High 
God, who delivered your enemies into your hand." /

/ /

/14:20b Abram gave Melchizedek a tenth of everything. /

/ /

/14:21 Then the king of Sodom said to Abram, "Give me the people and 
take the possessions for yourself." 14:22 But Abram replied to the king 
of Sodom, "I raise my hand to the Lord, the Most High God, Creator of 
heaven and earth, and vow 14:23 that I will take nothing belonging to 
you, not even a thread or the strap of a sandal. That way you can never 
say, 'It is I who made Abram rich.' /


/14:24 I will take nothing except compensation for what the young men 
have eaten. As for the share of the men who went with me -- Aner, 
Eshcol, and Mamre -- let them take their share." /


*Prayer:* Lord, may I be found as humble and as willing to fore-go the 
riches of this world, as Abram, that I may remain especially-free of 
people-of-rebellion (like the king of Sodom) to serve you.


*Commentary*


In the text of Genesis 14:10 it seemed that the former king of Sodom had 
perished into the tar pits, together with the king of Gomorrah "/When 
the kings of Sodom and Gomorrah fled, they fell into them, but some 
survivors fled to the hills." / The phrase /"some survivors"/ could have 
intended that the kings were survivors, though they were defeated, and 
some other survivors /"fled to the hills"/, or it could mean that the 
phrase /"some survivors"/ along with /"fell"/ indicates that the kings 
died and some survivors lived and fled to the hills. If the latter is 
correct then another man had apparently been enthroned as the new king 
of Sodom quickly as he meets Abram-the-liberator in the valley.

"/Melchizedek king of Salem ..."/ is a somewhat challenging character to 
identify. The name also appears in Psalm 110. The NET translator's notes 
suggest he was a Canaanite priest used to renew

the promise to Abram. Psalm 110 refers to him as an "eternal priest in 
the order of Melchizedek".

An "eternal priest" may refer to one who serves the one true God of 
eternity and/or one whose own eternity is assured because of one's faith 
has met God's standard. Melchizedek has appeared on the list of 
characters described as literal appearances of Christ in the Old Testament.


Melchizedek rightly contextualizes Abram's victory as God's victory 
realized through his servant Abram and declares God worthy of praise 
thus Abram gives an offering of ".../ a tenth of everything" /to him as 
a faithful priestly servant of God.


The Enemy then sends the rebellious and unrepentantly sinful king of 
Sodom to Abram, asking for his people back but offering the 
"possessions" that had been stolen and recovered to Abram in thanks. 
Abram discerns the trap and declares that he will keep nothing he did 
not earn so there was no encumbrance.


Abram did allow the others in their shared alliance to "... /take their 
share."/, apparently they were not leaders for God needing to avoid even 
the appearance of compromise.


*Interaction*


*Consider this:* The Apostle Paul did the same as Abram, choosing to 
labor as a tentmaker so that he could speak the truth without fear of 
financial threat from the "ungodly".


*Discuss this:* Abram's offer of "... /a tenth of everything"/ was an 
instinctive act of respect for and support of a messenger from God. How 
might we respond as New Testament Christians?


*Reflect on this:* The Enemy, the obvious "god" of the lives of the 
kings of Sodom and of Gomorrah, acts quickly to try to compromise Abram 
-- but Abram avoids becoming ensnared.


*Share this:* When have you been used of God to assist someone only to 
have a compromising offer made on the pretext of thanks? (It could be 
money of which you have cause to believe the source was sinful, alcohol 
or drugs, sexual favors, a special favor which would require an abuse of 
the person's otherwise legitimate access to a business or government or 
other organization, or the perhaps property of others.)


*Faith in Action*


*Prayer:*  Give the Holy Spirit permission to warn you more "loudly" 
when you may be drifting into a compromising situation as a result of a 
kindness you have done.


*Action:*  Prayerfully assess some of the circumstances where you have 
been, or are currently, helping others. Invite the Holy Spirit to 
directly, or indirectly through a spiritually mature friend, show you if 
there are any compromises slipped into your life by the Enemy using that 
person or those people. Refuse to accept those compromising things and 
be fulfilled and joy-filled that you have been used of the Lord as His 
instrument of blessing.


*Be Specific* 
_______________________________________________________________________



*/Wednesday's text will be:  Genesis 15:1-3/

*


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From fmiller at lightlink.com  Mon May 17 22:21:01 2010
From: fmiller at lightlink.com (Fred A. Miller)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 22:21:01 -0400
Subject: [Linux4christians] Technology News: Community: Who Will Show Up to
 Linux's Steam-Powered Playground?
Message-ID: <4BF1F98D.5080008@lightlink.com>

*'A Reason to Rejoice' *

"The day has finally come and Linux gamers around the world have a
reason to rejoice, as this is the biggest news for the Linux gaming
community that sees very few tier-one titles," wrote Michael Larabel of
Phoronix
<http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=valve_steam_announcement&num=1>.

http://www.technewsworld.com/story/70007.html?wlc=1274149073

-- 
I call several liberals friends. Fortunately I don't require my friends to be 
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From fmiller at lightlink.com  Tue May 18 03:33:35 2010
From: fmiller at lightlink.com (Fred A. Miller)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 03:33:35 -0400
Subject: [Linux4christians] JUST A TAP ON THE SHOULDER
Message-ID: <4BF242CF.9040209@lightlink.com>

A passenger in a taxi leaned over to ask the driver a question and
gently tapped him on the shoulder to get his attention.

The driver screamed, lost control of the cab, nearly hit a bus, drove
up over the curb and stopped just inches from a large plate glass
window.

For a few moments everything was silent in the cab. Then, the still
shaking driver said, 'Are you OK? I'm so sorry, but you scared the
daylights out of me.'

The badly shaken passenger apologized to the driver and said he didn't
realize that a mere tap on the shoulder would startle the driver so
badly.

The driver replied, 'No, no, I'm the one who is sorry, it's entirely
my fault. Today is my very first day driving a cab.
I've been driving a hearse for the past 25 years.

-- 
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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Tue May 18 23:48:48 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 22:48:48 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 15:1-3 (Wednesday)
Message-ID: <4BF35FA0.5090806@bibleseven.com>

*Genesis 15:1-3 (Wednesday)*

/ /

/
15:1 After these things the word of the Lord came to Abram in a vision: 
"Fear not, Abram! I am your shield and the one who will reward you in 
great abundance." /

/ /

/15:2 But Abram said, "O sovereign Lord, what will you give me since I 
continue to be childless, and my heir is Eliezer of Damascus?" 15:3 
Abram added, "Since you have not given me a descendant, then look, one 
born in my house will be my heir!" /


*Prayer:* Lord, your covenant with me through Jesus is the 
completed/perfected version of Your covenant with Abram, thank you!


*Commentary*


Once again the faith and trust of Abram is rewarded by a vision from 
God. God's promise to bless Abram is renewed.


Abram, still tortured by his state of childlessness by Sarai, questions 
the Lord's promise as without a son will result in a non-blood heir 
inheriting all that he has gathered, and bring an end to his family lineage.


Eliezer appears to be the default heir as per tradition he was the only 
son born in Abram's house, though not to Abram.



*Interaction*


*Consider this:* Abram's obsession with a son appears to be growing and 
his questioning of God creates an opportunity for the Enemy to do some 
mischief later on.


*Discuss this:* God has renewed His promise to Abram several times yet 
Abram still questions Him, have you observed that demandingness of God 
in your life, or that of others?


*Reflect on this:* When Abram doubts God's promise does that remind you 
of Eve when the serpent challenged her to doubt God?


*Share this:* When you find yourself questioning God; does He really 
love me, will He really provide for me, will He really protect me, where 
does your mind wander?


*Faith in Action*


*Prayer:* Ask the Holy Spirit to impress upon you a profound and 
constant awareness God's perfect knowledge and perfect power so that you 
stand in awe ... stripped of any doubt.


*Action:* Make a list of the promises that you believe that you have 
received from God, write next to them the cases where God has already 
fulfilled some of them, and pray that you will recognize as the others 
are fulfilled -- and that you will praise God for the past, present, and 
future.


*Be Specific* 
_______________________________________________________________________



*/Thursday's text will be:  Genesis 15:4-6/

*

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From l4c at thelinuxlink.net  Wed May 19 07:53:31 2010
From: l4c at thelinuxlink.net (l4c)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 07:53:31 -0400
Subject: [Linux4christians] Panera ++
Message-ID: <4BF3D13B.70101@thelinuxlink.net>

http://www.linuxforchristians.org/?p=191
-- 
-Linc Fessenden

In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right...

From michelefessenden at hotmail.com  Wed May 19 08:06:26 2010
From: michelefessenden at hotmail.com (michele fessenden)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 08:06:26 -0400
Subject: [Linux4christians] Panera ++
In-Reply-To: <4BF3D13B.70101@thelinuxlink.net>
References: <4BF3D13B.70101@thelinuxlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAY148-w43E1AF64DB6EC280F741FCBE20@phx.gbl>


That's really cool. I would just be afraid there are too many unscrupulous people out there that would spoil it for the people who really need it.
Am I assuming I don't have to cook?

> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 07:53:31 -0400
> From: l4c at thelinuxlink.net
> To: linux4christians at thelinuxlink.net
> Subject: [Linux4christians] Panera ++
> 
> http://www.linuxforchristians.org/?p=191
> -- 
> -Linc Fessenden
> 
> In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right...
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From l4c at thelinuxlink.net  Wed May 19 08:12:37 2010
From: l4c at thelinuxlink.net (l4c)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 08:12:37 -0400
Subject: [Linux4christians] Panera ++
In-Reply-To: <BAY148-w43E1AF64DB6EC280F741FCBE20@phx.gbl>
References: <4BF3D13B.70101@thelinuxlink.net>
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michele fessenden wrote:
> That's really cool. I would just be afraid there are too many 
> unscrupulous people out there that would spoil it for the people who 
> really need it.
> 
> Am I assuming I don't have to cook?

Pick me up at Whitford and bring a cigar?

-- 
-Linc Fessenden

In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right...

From michelefessenden at hotmail.com  Wed May 19 08:13:59 2010
From: michelefessenden at hotmail.com (michele fessenden)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 08:13:59 -0400
Subject: [Linux4christians] Panera ++
In-Reply-To: <4BF3D5B5.3000205@thelinuxlink.net>
References: <4BF3D13B.70101@thelinuxlink.net>,
	<BAY148-w43E1AF64DB6EC280F741FCBE20@phx.gbl>,
	<4BF3D5B5.3000205@thelinuxlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAY148-w161A9D0C71CFB4079BC373CBE20@phx.gbl>


It's a date :)

> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 08:12:37 -0400
> From: l4c at thelinuxlink.net
> To: linux4christians at thelinuxlink.net
> Subject: Re: [Linux4christians] Panera ++
> 
> michele fessenden wrote:
> > That's really cool. I would just be afraid there are too many 
> > unscrupulous people out there that would spoil it for the people who 
> > really need it.
> > 
> > Am I assuming I don't have to cook?
> 
> Pick me up at Whitford and bring a cigar?
> 
> -- 
> -Linc Fessenden
> 
> In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right...
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From gorkon at gmail.com  Wed May 19 08:22:40 2010
From: gorkon at gmail.com (Joel Mclaughlin)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 08:22:40 -0400
Subject: [Linux4christians] Panera ++
In-Reply-To: <BAY148-w161A9D0C71CFB4079BC373CBE20@phx.gbl>
References: <4BF3D13B.70101@thelinuxlink.net>
	<BAY148-w43E1AF64DB6EC280F741FCBE20@phx.gbl>
	<4BF3D5B5.3000205@thelinuxlink.net>
	<BAY148-w161A9D0C71CFB4079BC373CBE20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimZAZFlQIOXKBhLaacEMJzuJlaKHch6vyVfHWb5@mail.gmail.com>

Heh heh.

I have to admit, pretty cool.  I am sure they aren't entirely doing it
just for the good of humanity.  Let's face it, it pays to be like this
too! :D

Just think of how many people will go to the for profit stores just
because of this.  Panera will make money on this too believe you me!
There's nothing wrong with that either!

So Panera still makes money and does a lot of good.  Don't see a
downside in that!



On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 8:13 AM, michele fessenden
<michelefessenden at hotmail.com> wrote:
> It's a date :)
>
>> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 08:12:37 -0400
>> From: l4c at thelinuxlink.net
>> To: linux4christians at thelinuxlink.net
>> Subject: Re: [Linux4christians] Panera ++
>>
>> michele fessenden wrote:
>> > That's really cool. I would just be afraid there are too many
>> > unscrupulous people out there that would spoil it for the people who
>> > really need it.
>> >
>> > Am I assuming I don't have to cook?
>>
>> Pick me up at Whitford and bring a cigar?
>>
>> --
>> -Linc Fessenden
>>
>> In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right...
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>> Linux4christians at thelinuxlink.net
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From l4c at thelinuxlink.net  Wed May 19 08:28:56 2010
From: l4c at thelinuxlink.net (l4c)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 08:28:56 -0400
Subject: [Linux4christians] Panera ++
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimZAZFlQIOXKBhLaacEMJzuJlaKHch6vyVfHWb5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BF3D13B.70101@thelinuxlink.net>	<BAY148-w43E1AF64DB6EC280F741FCBE20@phx.gbl>	<4BF3D5B5.3000205@thelinuxlink.net>	<BAY148-w161A9D0C71CFB4079BC373CBE20@phx.gbl>
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Joel Mclaughlin wrote:
> Heh heh.
> 
> I have to admit, pretty cool.  I am sure they aren't entirely doing it
> just for the good of humanity.  Let's face it, it pays to be like this
> too! :D
> 
> Just think of how many people will go to the for profit stores just
> because of this.  Panera will make money on this too believe you me!
> There's nothing wrong with that either!
> 
> So Panera still makes money and does a lot of good.  Don't see a
> downside in that!

Yeah, definitely a win / win.  I don't mind pushing my dollars to 
companies that give back a little and I am also reminded how much I like 
their potato soup :)

-- 
-Linc Fessenden

In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right...

From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Wed May 19 18:16:50 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:16:50 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 15:4-6 (Thursday)
Message-ID: <4BF46352.60808@bibleseven.com>

*Genesis 15:4-6 (Thursday)*


/15:4 But look, the word of the Lord came to him: "This man will not be 
your heir, but instead a son who comes from your own body will be your 
heir."/


/15:5 The Lord took him outside and said, "Gaze into the sky and count 
the stars -- if you are able to count them!" Then he said to him, "So 
will your descendants be." /

/ /

/15:6 Abram believed the Lord, and the Lord considered his response of 
faith as proof of genuine loyalty. /


*Prayer:* Lord, I praise and thank you for these verses, they remind me 
of Your faithfulness over the generations.


*Commentary*


God corrects Abram's misconception and assures him that God's promise 
will be kept, no matter what Abram's limited imagination may yet comprehend.


God again shows Abram a symbolic representation of the numeric size of 
his descendants.


The text then reports that Abram's response in belief was blessed as 
"... /the Lord considered his response of faith as proof of genuine 
loyalty. "/ The terms used are parallel with those describing New 
Testament surrender in-faith to the Lordship of Christ.


*Interaction*


*Consider this:* God did not condemn Abram for his initial unbelief but 
instead patiently corrected him. Our God is a patient God.


*Discuss this:* Close your eyes, or perhaps go outside on a cloudless 
night, and imagine you are Abram being taken outside of his tent and 
shown the stars and promised that your descendants would be as numerous 
as the stars. Describe your sense of the feelings that must have flooded 
Abram's senses.


*Reflect on this:* God counted Abram's belief "... in the Lord" as 
faith, so the pattern of God's requirement of faith for salvation is not 
new to the New Testament.


*Share this:* When you believed in Jesus, what was the primary thing 
that caused you to finally recognize Him for Who He is and that caused 
you to choose to surrender to His Lordship?


*Faith in Action*


*Prayer:* Ask the Holy Spirit to remind you where and how God led you to 
"believe".


*Action:* Share with some fellow believers the circumstances leading to 
your decision to believe and to surrender in faith. Celebrate together 
and give praise to God.


*Be Specific* 
_______________________________________________________________________


/*Friday's text will be:  Genesis 15:7-16*/

-- 

"Learning to love like Jesus."  Eph. 4:2
Have an http://Ultrafidian.com Day!  Pastor David
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From fmiller at lightlink.com  Wed May 19 18:39:25 2010
From: fmiller at lightlink.com (Fred A. Miller)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 18:39:25 -0400
Subject: [Linux4christians] From another elist.....HUGE news!!
Message-ID: <4BF4689D.1060707@lightlink.com>

Remember when Google bought the company On2 Technologies.  That
company has a video codec called VP8, an H.264 competitor which is
actually better for streaming HD quality video.  Me and many others
suspected that Google was going to make VP8 open-source and push it as
an alternative to H.264 and Ogg Theora as the standard of choice for
HTML5 Video.

We were right!

Introducing Googe, Mozilla, and Opera's WebM Project http://www.webmproject.org/

Its a royalty-free open video codec based on VP8 for video and Ogg
Vorbis for audio.  Google plans to push it heavily as the standard of
choice for HTML5 Video and it will be supported by Youtube.

The announcement on TechCrunch ...
http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/19/webm-google-h-264/

This has big implications for Linux where Flash tends to perform
poorly.  Since WebM is a free open standard then it could be
incorporated into Totem, VLC, Mplayer, and any number of video players
on Linux, Mac and Windows.  It can be incorporated into Apple's iPad,
iPhone and the iPods that support video.  This is huge news.

-- 
"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear 
arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in 
government." --- (Thomas Jefferson)

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From preston.lists at gmail.com  Wed May 19 20:04:33 2010
From: preston.lists at gmail.com (Preston Boyington)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 19:04:33 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] From another elist.....HUGE news!!
In-Reply-To: <4BF4689D.1060707@lightlink.com>
References: <4BF4689D.1060707@lightlink.com>
Message-ID: <4BF47C91.2090905@gmail.com>

Fred A. Miller wrote:
<snipped>
 > It can be incorporated into Apple's iPad,
> iPhone and the iPods that support video.  This is huge news.

and this a few weeks ago:
http://newteevee.com/2010/04/30/apple-may-be-gunning-for-open-source-codecs/

"The latest indication that Apple is trying to strong-arm publishers to 
adopt HTML5 and H.264 came today, as Steve Jobs reportedly claimed by 
email that a patent pool was being assembled to ?go after? Ogg Theora 
and other open source codecs. That news comes just a few weeks before 
Google is expected to release its VP8 codec as open source, and could 
come as a big blow to the search giant?s plans to offer an alternative 
to H.264."


I do like Monty's response:
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/04/30/237238/Steve-Jobs-Hints-At-Theora-Lawsuit


Update: 05/01 00:38 GMT
Monty Montgomery of Xiph (the group behind Theora, as well as Ogg 
Vorbis, and more) provides a pointed, skeptical response to the implicit 
legal threat, below.

Monty writes: "Thomson Multimedia made their first veiled patent threats 
against Vorbis almost ten years ago. MPEG-LA has been rumbling for the 
past few years. Maybe this time it will actually come to something, but 
it hasn't yet. I'll get worried when the lawyers advise me to; i.e., not 
yet.

The MPEG-LA has insinuated for some time that it is impossible to build 
any video codec without infringing on at least some of their patents. 
That is, they assert they have a monopoly on all digital video 
compression technology, period, and it is illegal to even attempt to 
compete with them. Of course, they've been careful not to say quite 
exactly that.

If Jobs's email is genuine, this is a powerful public gaffe ('All video 
codecs are covered by patents.') He'd be confirming MPEG's assertion in 
plain language anyone can understand. It would only strengthen the 
pushback against software patents and add to Apple's increasing PR mess. 
Macbooks and iPads may be pretty sweet, but creative individuals don't 
really like to give their business to jackbooted thugs."


and 'no' I'm not an Apple fan and don't support them...

-- 

Arrant Drivel - really, it's just trash...
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Where the road takes me - a highwayman's perspective
http://www.prestonboyington.com/

From webservant at trinitybclaramie.org  Thu May 20 00:15:20 2010
From: webservant at trinitybclaramie.org (Peter B. Steiger)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 22:15:20 -0600
Subject: [Linux4christians] From another elist.....HUGE news!!
In-Reply-To: <4BF4689D.1060707@lightlink.com>
References: <4BF4689D.1060707@lightlink.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinY4wfhmxrOm9tm8nA1b8obyuVoTFj81_OETX45@mail.gmail.com>

That's good that Google is getting behind it, but if all the big money
(Apple and Microsoft) are pushing H.264 the free stuff will always be a
niche option.

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Fred A. Miller <fmiller at lightlink.com>wrote:

>  Its a royalty-free open video codec based on VP8 for video and Ogg
> Vorbis for audio.  Google plans to push it heavily as the standard of
> choice for HTML5 Video and it will be supported by Youtube.
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From fmiller at lightlink.com  Thu May 20 01:58:54 2010
From: fmiller at lightlink.com (Fred A. Miller)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 01:58:54 -0400
Subject: [Linux4christians] From another elist.....HUGE news!!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinY4wfhmxrOm9tm8nA1b8obyuVoTFj81_OETX45@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BF4689D.1060707@lightlink.com>
	<AANLkTinY4wfhmxrOm9tm8nA1b8obyuVoTFj81_OETX45@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BF4CF9E.2020708@lightlink.com>

On 05/20/2010 12:15 AM, Peter B. Steiger wrote:
> That's good that Google is getting behind it, but if all the big money 
> (Apple and Microsoft) are pushing H.264 the free stuff will always be 
> a niche option.
>
> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Fred A. Miller <fmiller at lightlink.com 
> <mailto:fmiller at lightlink.com>> wrote:
>
>     Its a royalty-free open video codec based on VP8 for video and Ogg
>     Vorbis for audio.  Google plans to push it heavily as the standard of
>     choice for HTML5 Video and it will be supported by Youtube.
>          
>

NOT so......read todays ZDNet news. Apple & MickySoft ARE supporting it!

Fred

-- 
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arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in
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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Fri May 21 00:53:26 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 23:53:26 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 15:7-16 (Friday)
Message-ID: <4BF611C6.7050801@bibleseven.com>

*Genesis 15:7-16 (Friday)*


/15:7 The Lord said to him, "I am the Lord who brought you out from Ur 
of the Chaldeans to give you this land to possess." 15:8 But Abram said, 
"O sovereign Lord, by what can I know that I am to possess it?" /

/ /

/15:9 The Lord said to him, "Take for me a heifer, a goat, and a ram, 
each three years old, along with a dove and a young pigeon." 15:10 So 
Abram took all these for him and then cut them in two and placed each 
half opposite the other, but he did not cut the birds in half. 15:11 
When birds of prey came down on the carcasses, Abram drove them away. /

/ /

/15:12 When the sun went down, Abram fell sound asleep, and great terror 
overwhelmed him. 15:13 Then the Lord said to Abram, "Know for certain 
that your descendants will be strangers in a foreign country. They will 
be enslaved and oppressed for four hundred years. 15:14 But I will 
execute judgment on the nation that they will serve. Afterward they will 
come out with many possessions. 15:15 But as for you, you will go to 
your ancestors in peace and be buried at a good old age. 15:16 In the 
fourth generation your descendants will return here, for the sin of the 
Amorites has not yet reached its limit." /

*Prayer:* Lord, teach me to never doubt or to question You. What You say 
you always do.


*Commentary*


Abram continues to question God's promise. It is unclear if he is 
actually doubting God or is just confused as he cannot see the path to 
its fulfillment.


God uses a powerful and stark illustration to drive home His point -- 
there would be difficult times and Abram would not see their conclusion 
-- but God would keep His promise.


God prophesies the Egyptian slavery and the eventual freedom, He also 
notes that the Amorites were in-process and God was allowing their 
rebellion against Him to play-out.


*Interaction*


*Consider this:* Abram still doesn't "get it" and continues to question 
God, and God patiently instructs him one more time.


*Discuss this:* Abram's apparent desire to stuff God into a man-sized 
box seems to predispose him to a bad decision in the future. Have you 
experienced this?


*Reflect on this:* Knowing the challenges ahead Abram continued to go 
wherever God led.


*Share this:* When has God asked you to do something new, or to persist 
in what you are already doing for Him, and you have obeyed even though 
you knew the going would be tough.


*Faith in Action*


*Prayer: * Ask the Holy Spirit to build you up in courage.


*Action:* Prayerfully identify something God wants you to persist in, or 
to begin newly, then journal or describe to a fellow believer the 
challenges that you know this will bring. Pray for courage and then 
commit to the Lord that you will persevere.


*Be Specific* 
_______________________________________________________________________


*/Saturday's text will be:  Genesis 15:17-21/

*

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From fmiller at lightlink.com  Fri May 21 16:58:34 2010
From: fmiller at lightlink.com (Fred A. Miller)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 16:58:34 -0400
Subject: [Linux4christians] Microsoft warns of bug in 64-bit Windows 7
Message-ID: <4BF6F3FA.6080101@lightlink.com>

Computerworld - Microsoft today warned users of a vulnerability in the 
64-bit versions of Wndows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 that could be 
used to hijack systems.

The bug is in Windows' Canonical Display Driver, which blends the 
operating system's primary graphics interface, dubbed Graphics Device 
Interface (GDI), and DirectX to compose the desktop.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9176944/Microsoft_warns_of_bug_in_64_bit_Windows_7

-- 
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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Fri May 21 21:22:35 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 20:22:35 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 15:17-21 (Saturday)
Message-ID: <4BF731DB.5020407@bibleseven.com>

*Genesis 15:17-21 (Saturday)*


/15:17 When the sun had gone down and it was dark, a smoking firepot 
with a flaming torch passed between the animal parts. /

/15:18 That day the Lord made a covenant with Abram: "To your 
descendants I give this land, from the river of Egypt to the great 
river, the Euphrates River -- 15:19 the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, 
Kadmonites, 15:20 Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, 15:21 Amorites, 
Canaanites, Girgashites, and Jebusites."/


*Prayer:* Lord, You give and You take away, it all belongs to You.


*Commentary*


The "... /smoking firepot with a flaming torch"/ which passed between 
the divided animal parts was an illustration drawn from a local custom 
with which Abram would have been familiar -- the Suzerain Treaty. The 
custom was that the victor in battle would do the same and then make the 
losers walk between the parts. He would then declare what the loser 
would and would not do -- failure to obey resulting in the same being 
done to them as to the animals. In this case it was God, in the form of 
the flame, Who was pledging Himself to His covenant with Abram.


God then describes both the geographical boundaries of the covenantal 
lands but also the tribes that would be displaced in order that His 
promise would be fulfilled.



*Interaction*


*Consider this:* God used the Suzerain Treaty to say that He was unlike 
all the false gods, He would not turn away from His Word, and He would 
be willing to give Himself in death on behalf of His people (those with 
an eternally saving relationship) so that their disobedience to Him 
would not result in their destruction.


*Discuss this:* God knew that it was important to persuade Abram that He 
was irreversibly committed to the covenant He had presented -- given 
Abram's repeated doubts did it not seem necessary?


*Reflect on this:* God used highly visual communication tools to be 
certain that there was no mistaking His intentions on the part of Abram.


*Share this:* When have you struggled to get someone to understand the 
promise that you were making to them? What kinds of illustrations have 
you used that you believe would be both familiar to them and would 
effectively make your point?


*Faith in Action*


*Prayer:* Ask the Holy Spirit to find you receptive as He tries to lead 
you to a clearer understanding of His message to you.


*Action:* Prayerfully select a Biblical teaching, either the literal 
Word or some doctrine that has been taught in your hearing or reading, 
which you have had some difficulty understanding. While the Word is 
always true, the interpretation of and/or application from it may be 
flawed. The doctrinal teaching may be fundamentally flawed or true. In 
either case ask the Lord to give you an illustration which will assist 
you in your understanding, then share it with another believer.


*Be Specific* 
______________________________________________________________________


/*Sunday's text will be:  Genesis 16:1-5*/


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"Learning to love like Jesus."  Eph. 4:2
Have an http://Ultrafidian.com Day!  Pastor David
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From webservant at trinitybclaramie.org  Sat May 22 13:04:51 2010
From: webservant at trinitybclaramie.org (Peter B. Steiger)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 11:04:51 -0600
Subject: [Linux4christians] Microsoft warns of bug in 64-bit Windows 7
In-Reply-To: <4BF6F3FA.6080101@lightlink.com>
References: <4BF6F3FA.6080101@lightlink.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinQ-r5LA1bu3SSAqy71sc7H8Akg7ZpWqViYoxCP@mail.gmail.com>

I don't understand this kind of vulnerability at all.  How would some
outside person gain access to my display drivers remotely?  What if I am
running as a non-root user?  What if I am behind a firewall?

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Fred A. Miller <fmiller at lightlink.com>wrote:

>  Computerworld - Microsoft today warned users of a vulnerability in the
> 64-bit versions of Wndows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 that could be used to
> hijack systems.
>
> The bug is in Windows' Canonical Display Driver, which blends the operating
> system's primary graphics interface, dubbed Graphics Device Interface (GDI),
> and DirectX to compose the desktop.
>
> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9176944/Microsoft_warns_of_bug_in_64_bit_Windows_7
>
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From fmiller at lightlink.com  Sat May 22 14:58:41 2010
From: fmiller at lightlink.com (Fred A. Miller)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 14:58:41 -0400
Subject: [Linux4christians] Microsoft warns of bug in 64-bit Windows 7
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinQ-r5LA1bu3SSAqy71sc7H8Akg7ZpWqViYoxCP@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BF6F3FA.6080101@lightlink.com>
	<AANLkTinQ-r5LA1bu3SSAqy71sc7H8Akg7ZpWqViYoxCP@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BF82961.50705@lightlink.com>

On 05/22/2010 01:04 PM, Peter B. Steiger wrote:
> I don't understand this kind of vulnerability at all.  How would some 
> outside person gain access to my display drivers remotely?  What if I 
> am running as a non-root user?  What if I am behind a firewall?
>
> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Fred A. Miller <fmiller at lightlink.com 
> <mailto:fmiller at lightlink.com>> wrote:
>
>     Computerworld - Microsoft today warned users of a vulnerability in
>     the 64-bit versions of Wndows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 that
>     could be used to hijack systems.
>
>     The bug is in Windows' Canonical Display Driver, which blends the
>     operating system's primary graphics interface, dubbed Graphics
>     Device Interface (GDI), and DirectX to compose the desktop.
>
>     http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9176944/Microsoft_warns_of_bug_in_64_bit_Windows_7
>
>

I've avoided having much to do with "7" so I really can't tell you. 
Maybe someone else can.

Fred

-- 
"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear
arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in
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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Sat May 22 22:18:31 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 21:18:31 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 16:1-5 (Sunday)
Message-ID: <4BF89077.2010703@bibleseven.com>

BibleSeven Bible Study and Devotion

Genesis Sixteen - Seventeen

Commentary -- Interaction -- Faith in Action



/Chapters One and Two presented the Creation narrative with different 
emphasis./

/Chapter Three described Adam and Eve's horribly wrong choice and the 
devastating consequences./

/Chapter Four described early life after Eden./

/Chapters Five and Six describes the terrible failure of humankind to 
seek after God and His decision to destroy live on the earth and restart 
with a Noadic remnant./

/Chapters Seven and Eight conclude the Ark story./

/Chapters Nine and Ten contain God's early instructions to the survivors 
of the Flood, the sin of Ham, and the future genealogies of the 
descendants of Noah's sons./

/Chapters Eleven, Twelve, and Thirteen describe the dispersal of the 
nations, Abram's travels, the kidnapping of Sarai, and the parting of 
Abram and Lot./

/Chapters Fourteen and Fifteen; Abram given victory in battle rescuing 
Lot, and the covenant is presented by God./


*Genesis 16:1-5 (Sunday)*


/The Birth of Ishmael /

/ /

/16:1 Now Sarai, Abram's wife, had not given birth to any children, but 
she had an Egyptian servant named Hagar. 16:2 So Sarai said to Abram, 
"Since the Lord has prevented me from having children, have sexual 
relations with my servant. Perhaps I can have a family by her." Abram 
did what Sarai told him. /

/ /

/16:3 So after Abram had lived in Canaan for ten years, Sarai, Abram's 
wife, gave Hagar, her Egyptian servant, to her husband to be his wife. 
16:4 He had sexual relations with Hagar, and she became pregnant. Once 
Hagar realized she was pregnant, she despised Sarai. 16:5 Then Sarai 
said to Abram, "You have brought this wrong on me! I allowed my servant 
to have sexual relations with you, but when she realized that she was 
pregnant, she despised me. May the Lord judge between you and me!" /

/ /

*Prayer:* Lord, may I learn from this to never get out ahead of Your 
perfectly-timed plan for me.

*
Commentary*


Abram and Sarai become impatient and decide together to have Abram mate 
with Sarai's servant, Hagar, who is functionally her property, therefore 
legally an extension of her.


Once Hagar is pregnant Abram naturally pays her extra attention and 
makes certain that she is well cared for -- thereby provoking Hagar to 
consider herself considerably more than a mere servant -- thereby 
provoking Sarai to become indignant.


Sarai confronts Abram, blaming him for her improper attitude, and 
demands that the Lord God judge who is in the right and the wrong.


*Interaction*


*Consider this:* Despite God's promise that Abram's descendants would 
come from Abram and Sarai, Sarai -- like Eve -- decides to go her own 
way and Abram -- like Adam -- follows her. This appears to be the first 
recorded case of a "surrogate mother"..


*Discuss this:* Have you ever grown tired of the waiting and acted in a 
manner less than honoring to God in order to speed things along?


*Reflect on this:* Hagar is caught in the middle. She would have been in 
trouble had she said no to Sarai's request to mate with Abram but now is 
in trouble because she did, or is it her newfound less-than-humble 
attitude alone?


*Share this:* Have you, or someone you know, received a special blessing 
and then been misunderstood when you/they celebrated it perhaps a little 
too much?


*Faith in Action*


*Prayer:* Ask the Holy Spirit to use you, along with this text, to teach 
someone "younger" in the faith, and to remind you of the important 
principles God wants all of His children to learn, remember, and apply.


*Action:* Prayerfully seek an opportunity to teach someone "younger" in 
the faith that God's timing is perfect and what He has promised He will 
fulfill in His time and in His way. If He wants our help He will ask for 
it. Also, to teach them about humility in the face of blessing so that 
their celebration is full but not disrespectful of others. As you teach 
remember that the lesson applies equally to you.


*Be Specific* 
_______________________________________________________________________


/*Monday's text will be:  Genesis 16:6-16*/

*
*

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From pjvasquez at baeyogin.com  Sun May 23 00:37:58 2010
From: pjvasquez at baeyogin.com (Peter J. Vasquez Sr.)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 23:37:58 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Microsoft warns of bug in 64-bit Windows 7
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinQ-r5LA1bu3SSAqy71sc7H8Akg7ZpWqViYoxCP@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BF6F3FA.6080101@lightlink.com>
	<AANLkTinQ-r5LA1bu3SSAqy71sc7H8Akg7ZpWqViYoxCP@mail.gmail.com>
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Peter,
  Drivers are especially dangerous as they have low-level access to
the hardware, and can be used as a foothold for other exploits (which
is why you should never look for obscure drives on the internet, and
just download from 'anywhere').  As described in the article, a
malicious image file on a website could be embedded with code to
exploit this vulnerability (the image file would have to be open, and
once rendered by the GDI, could deliver the payload).  Once a user
loads this malicious image in his browser (consider an obscure ad
linked from a news site, or social media) , the machine might be
successfully exploited in memory and could use other channels
(including downloading additional code from the Internet) in order to
establish permanent access to the machine and it's resources (think if
this involved installing a rootkit).  Remember, just because your user
is non-root, system drivers operate on a more privileged level, making
this vulnerability a potential concern for anyone running the 64-bit
version of Windows 7 and using any Internet browser.  While I don't
run Windows, I have done similar research in driver exploits in the
past, and I can tell you it's alarming when these types of low level
vulnerabilities are known, but not yet patched.  There's no telling
how many 0-days existed before the story was posted, but I can guess
there have been more sought and found since, as it would pay to have
them (on the black market) while no patch exists.

--
Peter J. Vasquez Sr.

On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Peter B. Steiger
<webservant at trinitybclaramie.org> wrote:
> I don't understand this kind of vulnerability at all.? How would some
> outside person gain access to my display drivers remotely?? What if I am
> running as a non-root user?? What if I am behind a firewall?
>
> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Fred A. Miller <fmiller at lightlink.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Computerworld - Microsoft today warned users of a vulnerability in the
>> 64-bit versions of Wndows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 that could be used to
>> hijack systems.
>>
>> The bug is in Windows' Canonical Display Driver, which blends the
>> operating system's primary graphics interface, dubbed Graphics Device
>> Interface (GDI), and DirectX to compose the desktop.
>>
>>
>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9176944/Microsoft_warns_of_bug_in_64_bit_Windows_7
>
>
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From hpp3 at lavabit.com  Sun May 23 01:11:44 2010
From: hpp3 at lavabit.com (Eddy Martin)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 22:11:44 -0700
Subject: [Linux4christians] Microsoft warns of bug in 64-bit Windows 7
In-Reply-To: <4BF82961.50705@lightlink.com>
References: <4BF6F3FA.6080101@lightlink.com><AANLkTinQ-r5LA1bu3SSAqy71sc7H8Akg7ZpWqViYoxCP@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BF82961.50705@lightlink.com>
Message-ID: <FAFAA336ED99484E8A5E1017C19439C3@alc.sea.local>


On 05/22/2010 01:04 PM, Peter B. Steiger wrote: 
I don't understand this kind of vulnerability at all.? How would some
outside person gain access to my display drivers remotely?? What if I am
running as a non-root user?? What if I am behind a firewall?
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Fred A. Miller <fmiller at lightlink.com>
wrote:
Computerworld - Microsoft today warned users of a vulnerability in the
64-bit versions of Wndows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 that could be used to
hijack systems.
The bug is in Windows' Canonical Display Driver, which blends the operating
system's primary graphics interface, dubbed Graphics Device Interface (GDI),
and DirectX to compose the desktop.
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9176944/Microsoft_warns_of_bug_in_64_
bit_Windows_7
----------------------------------------------------

I've avoided having much to do with "7" so I really can't tell you. Maybe
someone else can.

Fred
----------------------------------------------------

IANAD (I am not a developer), but I imagine it is due to a few things like
the kernel running display drivers, DirectX allowed direct access to VERY
powerful modern graphics hardware, the list could go on.
>From the report, it appears the exploit simply allows malicious code to
crash the system; something which Microsoft has done consistently with
non-malicious code for some time now. ;)
Sounds rather similar to the MICE bug:
http://www.grc.com/wmf/wmf.htm

>From all I've heard from many Windows-using acquaintances, 7 is the most
stable and trouble-free version of Windows yet, and certainly a courageous
trump over the best-forgotten Vista.
If I ever buy a new computer, I'd certainly be tempted to keep a dual-boot
just so I could play with it and see what all the hullabaloo is about.

.. Then again, I'll probably huff over it for a day, or at most two, then
cfdisk that partition into Ext3 oblivion.

-Eddy



From hpp3 at lavabit.com  Sun May 23 01:14:48 2010
From: hpp3 at lavabit.com (Eddy Martin)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 22:14:48 -0700
Subject: [Linux4christians] Microsoft warns of bug in 64-bit Windows 7
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin1JgGISy2uoAfpzQvbDcHbsCQRNSqAFaIM3_6D@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BF6F3FA.6080101@lightlink.com><AANLkTinQ-r5LA1bu3SSAqy71sc7H8Akg7ZpWqViYoxCP@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTin1JgGISy2uoAfpzQvbDcHbsCQRNSqAFaIM3_6D@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3EEEDC04C3604F6898C90A15FF11B0EA@alc.sea.local>

Wow Peter, better said and a jump ahead of my reply.
Thanks for the (much) better explanation.
Although I'd like to ask if (in your opinion) this is the MICE bug all over
again?
Or just a run-of-the-mill Windows exploit?

-Eddy

-----Original Message-----
From: linux4christians-bounces at thelinuxlink.net
[mailto:linux4christians-bounces at thelinuxlink.net] On Behalf Of Peter J.
Vasquez Sr.
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 9:38 PM
To: Linux for Christians
Subject: Re: [Linux4christians] Microsoft warns of bug in 64-bit Windows 7

Peter,
  Drivers are especially dangerous as they have low-level access to
the hardware, and can be used as a foothold for other exploits (which
is why you should never look for obscure drives on the internet, and
just download from 'anywhere').  As described in the article, a
malicious image file on a website could be embedded with code to
exploit this vulnerability (the image file would have to be open, and
once rendered by the GDI, could deliver the payload).  Once a user
loads this malicious image in his browser (consider an obscure ad
linked from a news site, or social media) , the machine might be
successfully exploited in memory and could use other channels
(including downloading additional code from the Internet) in order to
establish permanent access to the machine and it's resources (think if
this involved installing a rootkit).  Remember, just because your user
is non-root, system drivers operate on a more privileged level, making
this vulnerability a potential concern for anyone running the 64-bit
version of Windows 7 and using any Internet browser.  While I don't
run Windows, I have done similar research in driver exploits in the
past, and I can tell you it's alarming when these types of low level
vulnerabilities are known, but not yet patched.  There's no telling
how many 0-days existed before the story was posted, but I can guess
there have been more sought and found since, as it would pay to have
them (on the black market) while no patch exists.

--
Peter J. Vasquez Sr.





From pjvasquez at baeyogin.com  Sun May 23 14:50:38 2010
From: pjvasquez at baeyogin.com (Peter J. Vasquez Sr.)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 18:50:38 +0000
Subject: [Linux4christians] Microsoft warns of bug in 64-bit Windows 7
In-Reply-To: <3EEEDC04C3604F6898C90A15FF11B0EA@alc.sea.local>
References: <4BF6F3FA.6080101@lightlink.com>
	<AANLkTinQ-r5LA1bu3SSAqy71sc7H8Akg7ZpWqViYoxCP@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTin1JgGISy2uoAfpzQvbDcHbsCQRNSqAFaIM3_6D@mail.gmail.com>
	<3EEEDC04C3604F6898C90A15FF11B0EA@alc.sea.local>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimVbZMVTsOz8i05W0nBdHHM-IAmHR91j8iyPuiu@mail.gmail.com>

Eddy,
  Based on the CVE, the error happens when user mode data is copied
directly into the kernel mode, without proper parsing.  Given that an
exploit could be hidden within user mode data (intentionally), the
direct copy to kernel mode is a concern.  Once it is copied into
kernel mode though, it doesn't appear that there is a simple way to
'guess' the memory location (unlike other exploits of this type),
making an exploit difficult, but not impossible.  Couple the now
kernel mode data with another exploit to read the memory address, this
could be a more serious issue (and why it is still being
'researched').  By comparison, M.I.C.E. was revealed as a poorly
thought-out, flawed (and potentially lazy) design choice for parsing
metadata to handle print control flow.  I can see the link if this
were done to intentionally format cdd.dll (the canonical display
driver), but that would be a dangerous choice, and would've probably
been more immediately obvious.

On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 5:14 AM, Eddy Martin <hpp3 at lavabit.com> wrote:
> Wow Peter, better said and a jump ahead of my reply.
> Thanks for the (much) better explanation.
> Although I'd like to ask if (in your opinion) this is the MICE bug all over
> again?
> Or just a run-of-the-mill Windows exploit?
>
> -Eddy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux4christians-bounces at thelinuxlink.net
> [mailto:linux4christians-bounces at thelinuxlink.net] On Behalf Of Peter J.
> Vasquez Sr.
> Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 9:38 PM
> To: Linux for Christians
> Subject: Re: [Linux4christians] Microsoft warns of bug in 64-bit Windows 7
>
> Peter,
> ?Drivers are especially dangerous as they have low-level access to
> the hardware, and can be used as a foothold for other exploits (which
> is why you should never look for obscure drives on the internet, and
> just download from 'anywhere'). ?As described in the article, a
> malicious image file on a website could be embedded with code to
> exploit this vulnerability (the image file would have to be open, and
> once rendered by the GDI, could deliver the payload). ?Once a user
> loads this malicious image in his browser (consider an obscure ad
> linked from a news site, or social media) , the machine might be
> successfully exploited in memory and could use other channels
> (including downloading additional code from the Internet) in order to
> establish permanent access to the machine and it's resources (think if
> this involved installing a rootkit). ?Remember, just because your user
> is non-root, system drivers operate on a more privileged level, making
> this vulnerability a potential concern for anyone running the 64-bit
> version of Windows 7 and using any Internet browser. ?While I don't
> run Windows, I have done similar research in driver exploits in the
> past, and I can tell you it's alarming when these types of low level
> vulnerabilities are known, but not yet patched. ?There's no telling
> how many 0-days existed before the story was posted, but I can guess
> there have been more sought and found since, as it would pay to have
> them (on the black market) while no patch exists.
>
> --
> Peter J. Vasquez Sr.
>
>
>
>
>

From fmiller at lightlink.com  Sun May 23 15:08:46 2010
From: fmiller at lightlink.com (Fred A. Miller)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 15:08:46 -0400
Subject: [Linux4christians] Jews for Jesus founder dies
Message-ID: <4BF97D3E.8040002@lightlink.com>

Jews for Jesus founder dies 
<http://www.onenewsnow.com/Business/Default.aspx?id=1021674>
The founder of the group Jews for Jesus has died after a long battle 
with prostate cancer. Moishe Rosen was 78.

-- 
"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear
arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in
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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Sun May 23 21:27:28 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 20:27:28 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 16:6-16 (Monday)
Message-ID: <4BF9D600.7070403@bibleseven.com>

*Genesis 16:6-16 (Monday)*


/16:6 Abram said to Sarai, "Since your servant is under your authority, 
do to her whatever you think best." Then Sarai treated Hagar harshly, so 
she ran away from Sarai. /

/ /

/16:7 The Lord's angel found Hagar near a spring of water in the desert 
-- the spring that is along the road to Shur. 16:8 He said, "Hagar, 
servant of Sarai, where have you come from, and where are you going?" 
She replied, "I'm running away from my mistress, Sarai." /

/ /

/ /

/ /

/16:9 Then the Lord's angel said to her, "Return to your mistress and 
submit to her authority. 16:10 I will greatly multiply your 
descendants," the Lord's angel added, "so that they will be too numerous 
to count."
/

/16:11 Then the Lord's angel said to her,  /"/You are now pregnant and 
are about to give birth to a son. You are to name him Ishmael, for the 
Lord has heard your painful groans. 16:12 He will be a wild donkey of a 
man. He will be hostile to everyone, and everyone will be hostile to 
him. He will live away from his brothers." /

/ /

/16:13 So Hagar named the Lord who spoke to her, "You are the God who 
sees me," for she said, "Here I have seen one who sees me!" 16:14 That 
is why the well was called Beer Lahai Roi. (It is located between Kadesh 
and Bered.) /

/ /

/16:15 So Hagar gave birth to Abram's son, whom Abram named Ishmael. 
16:16 (Now Abram was 86 years old when Hagar gave birth to Ishmael.)/


*Prayer:* Lord, may this text help me to understand that a child born as 
a result of disobedience to You will also be born into many forms of 
conflict; may I be kind and prayerful and understanding.


*Commentary*


Abram responds to Sarai's jealous challenge by acknowledging her 
owner-master relationship with Hagar. Sarai then mistreats Hagar who flees.


"/The Lord's angel ..."/ greets Hagar and instructs her to return to 
Sarai. He also delivers God's message that her descendants would be many 
and she was to name him Ishmael (the God Who hears).


She is given a prophesy that Ishmael, and his descendants would live 
apart from traditional people, often wandering, often in sociological 
conflict due to different styles, temperament, and traditions.


She obediently returns and gives birth. Abram obeys the instruction of 
the angel and names the child Ishmael.


*Interaction*


*Consider this:* The the frustration and anger Hagar feels becomes a 
desire for freedom at any cost -- and Ishmael lives that life of 
separateness and disconnectedness with his extended family.


*Discuss this:* Are you, or is someone you now well, a child of conflict 
and rebellion? How has that impacted your life?


*Reflect on this:* God's promise to Abram partially extends to his child 
with Hagar, though that was not the original intent, God is faithful -- 
even as Abram is not.


*Share this:* When has God offered to bless something but you took a 
"short cut" so that when the blessing came it was distorted somehow? 
(e.g. God promises to bless a new ministry but you took a short cut and 
placed a new believer in a role of leadership, despite Biblical warnings 
to not do so, and as a result the ministry grows but is plagued with 
conflicts centered around that person.)


*Faith in Action*


*Prayer:* Ask the Holy Spirit to show you where you may be drifting off 
of the path God has for you.


*Action:* Prayerfully review the choices that you are making. With the 
help of the Holy Spirit discern one area where you are trying to 
accomplish in your flesh that which God has said He will do. Confess and 
repent (turn away from) that and patiently wait on the Lord -- being 
faithful in the small things along the way.


*Be Specific* 
_______________________________________________________________________


*/Tuesday's text will be:  Genesis 17:1-8/

*

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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Mon May 24 23:49:48 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 22:49:48 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 17:1-8 (Tuesday)
Message-ID: <4BFB48DC.3040504@bibleseven.com>

*Genesis 17:1-8 (Tuesday)*


/The Sign of the Covenant /

/ /

/17:1 When Abram was 99 years old, the Lord appeared to him and said, "I 
am the sovereign God. Walk before me and be blameless. 17:2 Then I will 
confirm my covenant between me and you, and I will give you a multitude 
of descendants." /

/ /

/17:3 Abram bowed down with his face to the ground, and God said to him, 
17:4 "As for me, this is my covenant with you: You will be the father of 
a multitude of nations. 17:5 No longer will your name be Abram. Instead, 
your name will be Abraham because I will make you the father of a 
multitude of nations. 17:6 I will make you extremely fruitful. I will 
make nations of you, and kings will descend from you. 17:7 I will 
confirm my covenant as a perpetual covenant between me and you. It will 
extend to your descendants after you throughout their generations. I 
will be your God and the God of your descendants after you. 17:8 I will 
give the whole land of Canaan -- the land where you are now residing -- 
to you and your descendants after you as a permanent possession. I will 
be their God." /

/ /


*Prayer:* Lord, I wish to walk before you blameless and to be a fruitful 
part of Your perfect plan in this world.


*Commentary*


God has been systematically and incrementally communicating the details 
of His covenant to Abram,

here He communicates His decision to re-name Abram to Abraham in order 
to clarify His "ownership" of Abraham and his descendants.



God again affirms His commitment to make Abraham "fruitful", to raise up 
great leaders from his descendants, to give to them a large territory, 
and to "/be their God." /


*Interaction*


*Consider this:* Observed Abram's response to the presence of God 
"/Abram bowed down with his face to the ground ..."/ The Holy Spirit of 
God dwells within us, do we "bow down" before His presence through lives 
lived in humble submission?


*Discuss this:* Is it not amazing that despite Abram and Sarai's 
rebellion which had just created the tribe of Ishmael God still comes to 
Abram to continue the revelation of His covenant?


*Reflect on this:* What must it have meant to Abram, now Abraham, to 
hear God declare of his descendants "/I will be their God."/


*Share this:* When has your realization that the Holy Spirit in you is 
God present with you caused to you pause in reverent awe -- and moved 
you to live more righteously before Him?


*Faith in Action*


*Prayer:* Ask the Holy Spirit to remind you of the covenant God has made 
with you in Christ.


*Action:* Prayerfully seek out a new or stuck believer and share this 
text and discussion with them, encouraging them to discover anew the awe 
of the presence of God within.


*Be Specific* 
_______________________________________________________________________



*/Wednesday's text will be:  Genesis 17:9-14/

*

-- 

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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Tue May 25 20:52:58 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 19:52:58 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 17:9-14 (Wednesday)
Message-ID: <4BFC70EA.1090205@bibleseven.com>

*Genesis 17:9-14 (Wednesday)*

/ /

/17:9 Then God said to Abraham, "As for you, you must keep the 
covenantial requirement I am imposing on you and your descendants after 
you throughout their generations. /


/17:10 This is my requirement that you and your descendants after you 
must keep: Every male among you must be circumcised. 17:11 You must 
circumcise the flesh of your foreskins. This will be a reminder of the 
covenant between me and you. /


/17:12 Throughout your generations every male among you who is eight 
days old must be circumcised, whether born in your house or bought with 
money from any foreigner who is not one of your descendants. 17:13 They 
must indeed be circumcised, whether born in your house or bought with 
money. The sign of my covenant will be visible in your flesh as a 
permanent reminder. /


/17:14 Any uncircumcised male who has not been circumcised in the flesh 
of his foreskin will be cut off from his people -- he has failed to 
carry out my requirement." /

/ /


*Prayer:* Lord, while the whole notion of adult circumcision makes us 
wince, and the nature of such a primitive and 
legalistic/performance-based relationship contrary to our Christian 
reality of a grace-based relationship, we do want to be mindful that 
there is a "spiritual circumcision" that takes place when we accept Your 
Lordship of our lives.


*Commentary*


God describes to Abraham His system to bring the men in Abraham's 
extended family and community to an awareness of the high-level of 
commitment they were making to His covenant -- adult circumcision.


God also instructed Abraham that newly born boys must also be circumcised.


God extended the circumcision requirements to every male in "the camp".


*Interaction*


*Consider this:* In the primitive medical conditions this would have 
been dangerous, not to mention debilitating the men for a while from 
defending the community or working.


*Discuss this:* Compare the severity of the physical pain and 
significance of the social impact associated with the Abrahamic covenant 
to that which we experience for our public declaration of faith in the 
generally Christian-friendly West, as well as parts of the rest of the 
world.


*Reflect on this:* The instructions of God, detailed later, would 
specify the 8^th week of life for baby boys to be circumcised. Modern 
research has uncovered the fact that the 8^th week is when Vitamin K 
spikes in the child -- Vitamin K is a clotting agent which would have 
prevented them from excessive bleeding.


*Share this:* What do you know of cultures where a public confession of 
faith represents a major physical and/or sociological risk and sacrifice?


*Faith in Action*


*Prayer:*  Ask the Holy Spirit to make you mindful of the "circumcision 
of your heart" which God asks of you, as described by the apostle Paul 
in the NT as a parallel to that experienced by Abraham and his community.


*Action:*  Prayerfully seek a place in your life where you have not 
experienced a "circumcision of the heart", that is, a place where your 
loyalty remains in the world rather than in Christ. Agree to cooperate 
with the Holy Spirit to walk through the challenging process of 
surrendering that part of your life to the Lordship of Christ -- no 
matter the cost.


*Be Specific* 
_______________________________________________________________________



*/Thursday's text will be:  Genesis 17:15-18/

*

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From fmiller at lightlink.com  Tue May 25 23:05:12 2010
From: fmiller at lightlink.com (Fred A. Miller)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 23:05:12 -0400
Subject: [Linux4christians] THIS IS HEAVEN
Message-ID: <4BFC8FE8.3@lightlink.com>

THIS IS HEAVEN

An 85-year-old couple had been married for 60 years.  Though they were
far from rich, they managed to get by because they watched their
pennies.

Though not young, they were both in very good health, largely due to the
wife's insistence on healthy foods and exercise for the last decade.
One day their good health didn't help when they went on a rare vacation
and their plane crashed, sending them off to Heaven.

They reached the Pearly Gates and Saint Peter escorted them inside.  He
took them to a beautiful mansion furnished in gold and fine silks with a
fully stocked kitchen and a waterfall in the master bath.  A maid could
be seen hanging their favorite clothes in the closet.
They gasped in astonishment when he said, "Welcome to Heaven.  This will
be your home now."

The old man asked Peter how much all this was going to cost.  "Why,
nothing," Peter replied, "Remember, this is your reward in Heaven."
The old man looked out the window and right there he saw a championship
golf course, finer and more beautiful than any ever built on Earth.
"What are the greens fees?" grumbled the old man.
"This is heaven," St. Peter replied "You play for free, every day...."

Next they went to the clubhouse and saw the lavish buffet lunch with
every imaginable cuisine laid out before them from seafood to steaks to
exotic deserts, free flowing beverages.
"Don't even ask," said St. Peter to the man.  "This is Heaven, it is all
free for you to enjoy."
The old man looked around and glanced nervously at his wife.
"Well, where are the low fat and low cholesterol foods and the
decaffeinated tea?" he asked.
"That's the best part," St. Peter replied. "You can eat and drink as
much as you like of whatever you like and you will never get fat or
sick.  This is Heaven!'
The old man pushed, "No gym to work out at?"
"Not unless you want to," was the answer.
"No testing my sugar or blood pressure or..."
"Never again.  All you do here is enjoy yourself."

The old man glared at his wife and said, "You and your lousy bran
flakes!  We could have been here 10 years ago!"

-- 
"Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it
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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Wed May 26 18:08:52 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 17:08:52 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 17:15-18 (Thursday)
Message-ID: <4BFD9BF4.7030403@bibleseven.com>

*Genesis 17:15-18 (Thursday)*


/17:15 Then God said to Abraham, "As for your wife, you must no longer 
call her Sarai; Sarah will be her name. 17:16 I will bless her and will 
give you a son through her. I will bless her and she will become a 
mother of nations. Kings of countries will come from her!" /

/ /

/17:17 Then Abraham bowed down with his face to the ground and laughed 
as he said to himself, "Can a son be born to a man who is a hundred 
years old? Can Sarah bear a child at the age of ninety?" /


/17:18 Abraham said to God, "O that Ishmael might live before you!" /

/ /


*Prayer:* Lord, may I never be found laughing in doubt at any of Your 
prophesies, You always keep Your word and nothing You promise is absurd.


*Commentary*


God informs Abraham that He is also asserting "lordship/ownership" of 
Sarai and that He has renamed her Sarah.



God then instructs Abraham to inform Sarah that she will bear a child 
from Abraham and that child will be the first in a line that will 
include kings of countries [and The King],


Abraham, bowing in submission laughs at the very notion that an elderly 
couple like he and Sarah could have a child.


Abraham pleads that God will fulfill His promise through Ishmael.


*Interaction*


*Consider this:* Abraham still fails to fully appreciate Who God Is and 
therefore doubts His capacity to fulfill His prophesy in a very literal way.


*Discuss this:* When have you doubted one of God's promises could really 
come to you?


*Reflect on this:* Abraham is focused on himself, through the eyes of 
the world seeing himself and Sarah as impossible vessels for God's 
fulfilled prophesy, and the he places God in a man-sized "box".


*Share this:* When have you doubted your suitability for God's promise 
and, perhaps unintentionally, then doubted God's capacity to do as He 
has promised in and through you?


*Faith in Action*


*Prayer:*  Ask the Holy Spirit to extinguish any smoldering fire of 
doubt which the enemy has started in you.


*Action:*  Prayerfully ponder the most challenging or difficult promise 
God has made to you. [His promises to His children are all in His Word.] 
Honestly list the doubts you have, both of yourself as fit to be the 
vessel of His promise, and if you really understood correctly His 
amazing promise. Ask a fellow believer to pray in-agreement that your 
faith would be expanded to accept God at His Word.


*Be Specific* 
_______________________________________________________________________


/*Friday's text will be:  Genesis 17:19-22*/

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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Fri May 28 00:10:57 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 23:10:57 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 17:19-22 (Friday)
Message-ID: <4BFF4251.5010909@bibleseven.com>

*Genesis 17:19-22 (Friday)*


/17:19 God said, "No, Sarah your wife is going to bear you a son, and 
you will name him Isaac. I will confirm my covenant with him as a 
perpetual covenant for his descendants after him. /


/17:20 As for Ishmael, I have heard you. I will indeed bless him, make 
him fruitful, and give him a multitude of descendants. He will become 
the father of twelve princes; I will make him into a great nation. /


/17:21 But I will establish my covenant with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear 
to you at this set time next year." /


/17:22 When he finished speaking with Abraham, God went up from him. /

/ /

*Prayer:** * Lord, find me grateful that rather than occasional moments 
when You come to be near to me You are always with me through Your Holy 
Spirit.


*Commentary*


God corrects Abraham's error and instructs him to name the son who will 
be born of Abraham and Sarai - Issac. He advises Abraham that the birth 
will be in one year's time.


God notifies Abraham that He will confirm His covenant directly with Issac.


He also lets Abraham know what He has already declared, that He will 
bless Ishmael because of Abraham, making his descendants many and 
powerful and gathered into a large nation. Interestingly He declares 
that Ishmael will be the father of twelve princes.


When God has completed His instruction of Abraham He departs.


*Interaction*


*Consider this:* God does not choose to confront Abraham angrily, 
despite his rebellion via Hagar and his doubts about God's promise.


*Discuss this:* When have you known that you deserved God's anger and 
Hand of discipline yet He has withheld both. Since He knows your heart 
was His restraint due to your repentance?


*Reflect on this:* Prior to the coming of the indwelling Holy Spirit 
those who worshiped God generally only knew His presence occasionally 
whereas NT believers have His presence continually.


*Share this:* When has God had to confront you in some way to correct 
your wrong thinking?


*Faith in Action*


*Prayer:*  Ask the Holy Spirit to remind you frequently every day of His 
presence.


*Action:*  I agree to be intentional about beginning my every day with a 
conversation with the Holy Spirit of God through prayer, to pause and do 
so during the day, and to be at least as faithful in this as an adherent 
to Islam is in his or her daily pauses for worship.


*Be Specific* 
_______________________________________________________________________


*/Saturday's text will be:  Genesis 17:23-27/

*

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From fmiller at lightlink.com  Thu May 27 23:35:30 2010
From: fmiller at lightlink.com (Fred A. Miller)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 23:35:30 -0400
Subject: [Linux4christians] Bible and a Haircut
Message-ID: <4BFF3A02.8010709@lightlink.com>

A young boy had just gotten his driver's permit and
Inquired of his father if they could discuss his use of the car.
His Father said he'd make a deal with his son. "You bring your
grades up from a C to a B average, study  Your Bible a little,
get your hair cut and we'll talk about the car."
The boy thought about that for a moment decided he'd
Settle for the offer and they agreed on it.
After about six weeks his father said, "Son, I'm real Proud of you.
You brought your grades up and I've observed that you have
Been studying your Bible, but I'm disappointed you haven't gotten your 
Hair cut."
The young man paused a moment then said, "You know, Dad,
I've been thinking about that, and I've noticed in my studies of the
Bible that Samson had long hair, John the Baptist had long hair, Moses
had long hair and there's even a strong argument that Jesus had long Hair.
And, his father replied, "Did you notice they all Walked everywhere they 
went."

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From webservant at trinitybclaramie.org  Fri May 28 08:51:13 2010
From: webservant at trinitybclaramie.org (Peter B. Steiger)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 06:51:13 -0600
Subject: [Linux4christians] Bible and a Haircut
In-Reply-To: <4BFF3A02.8010709@lightlink.com>
References: <4BFF3A02.8010709@lightlink.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinf5e4etysGD_B-a4c_Xi9rUcrDEVJy6OMcF0Y2@mail.gmail.com>

Ha!  I can identify with the boy.  I cut my hair every 2-3 years, let it
grow down to my shoulders, and start the cycle all over again.  Sadly, Locks
For Love can't use it on children's wigs any more because there's too much
gray in it...
[image: hair20081005.jpg]
Totally unrelated... is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that these
humorous inspirational emails that always get forwarded have the weirdest
capitalization?  There's somebody out there who writes very clever
allegories but capitalizes every other verb and randomly selected nouns.

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Fred A. Miller <fmiller at lightlink.com>wrote:

>  The young man paused a moment then said, "You know, Dad,
> I've been thinking about that, and I've noticed in my studies of the
> Bible that Samson had long hair, John the Baptist had long hair, Moses
> had long hair and there's even a strong argument that Jesus had long Hair.
> And, his father replied, "Did you notice they all Walked everywhere they
> went."
>
>
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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Fri May 28 22:06:20 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 21:06:20 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 17:23-27 (Saturday)
Message-ID: <4C00769C.3050204@bibleseven.com>

*Genesis 17:23-27 (Saturday)*


/17:23 Abraham took his son Ishmael and every male in his household 
(whether born in his house or bought with money) and circumcised them on 
that very same day, just as God had told him to do./


/17:24 Now Abraham was 99 years old when he was circumcised; 17:25 his 
son Ishmael was thirteen years old when he was circumcised. 17:26 
Abraham and his son Ishmael were circumcised on the very same day. /


/17:27 All the men of his household, whether born in his household or 
bought with money from a foreigner, were circumcised with him./


*Prayer:* Lord, may I be as faithful in following Your instructions as 
was Abraham, no matter the cost.


*Commentary*


Abraham immediately obeys God's instruction and has every male circumcised.


The circumcision included Abraham (99 years old) and Ishmael (13).


*Interaction*


*Consider this:* There were no hospitals as we know them, little in the 
way of sanitation, and every male was circumcised -- creating a military 
vulnerability while they recovered.


*Discuss this:* Abraham was apparently held in extraordinary high-regard 
as there is no report of rebellion against this extreme requirement for 
all of the men.


*Reflect on this:* Abraham never asked for an exemption based on his age 
and was circumcised along with Ishmael, humbly submitting as leader and 
son for all to know that it was the required thing to do and that he was 
willing to model obedience even in very difficult things.


*Share this:* When has God made a sacrificial claim on your life? Did 
you obey despite the cost?


*Faith in Action*


*Prayer:* Ask the Holy Spirit to find you a willing partner in learning 
to be the first to sacrifice and a positive role model of obedience to 
God -- even in the hard things.


*Action:* Partner in prayer with a fellow believer, asking together for 
the Holy Spirit to reveal a challenging change He wants to make in you, 
then obeying that Biblically-affirmed call without regard for personal 
discomfort or inconvenience in the model of Abraham.


*Be Specific* 
______________________________________________________________________


/*Sunday's text will be:  Genesis 18:1-8*/


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From fmiller at lightlink.com  Fri May 28 23:21:45 2010
From: fmiller at lightlink.com (Fred A. Miller)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 23:21:45 -0400
Subject: [Linux4christians] Bible and a Haircut
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinf5e4etysGD_B-a4c_Xi9rUcrDEVJy6OMcF0Y2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BFF3A02.8010709@lightlink.com>
	<AANLkTinf5e4etysGD_B-a4c_Xi9rUcrDEVJy6OMcF0Y2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C008849.7070708@lightlink.com>

On 05/28/2010 08:51 AM, Peter B. Steiger wrote:
> Ha!  I can identify with the boy.  I cut my hair every 2-3 years, let 
> it grow down to my shoulders, and start the cycle all over again.  
> Sadly, Locks For Love can't use it on children's wigs any more because 
> there's too much gray in it...
> hair20081005.jpg
> Totally unrelated... is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that 
> these humorous inspirational emails that always get forwarded have the 
> weirdest capitalization?  There's somebody out there who writes very 
> clever allegories but capitalizes every other verb and randomly 
> selected nouns.
>
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Fred A. Miller <fmiller at lightlink.com 
> <mailto:fmiller at lightlink.com>> wrote:
>
>     The young man paused a moment then said, "You know, Dad,
>     I've been thinking about that, and I've noticed in my studies of the
>     Bible that Samson had long hair, John the Baptist had long hair, Moses
>     had long hair and there's even a strong argument that Jesus had
>     long Hair.
>     And, his father replied, "Did you notice they all Walked
>     everywhere they went."
>

Yes, I know, and if I have time, I correct the capitalization, spacing, 
and punctuation. I didn't have time to
"work" on that one, so just passed it on as is.

Fred

-- 
"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear
arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in
government." --- (Thomas Jefferson)

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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Sat May 29 22:01:36 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 21:01:36 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 18:1-8 (Sunday)
Message-ID: <4C01C700.6070902@bibleseven.com>

BibleSeven Bible Study and Devotion

Genesis Eighteen - Nineteen

Commentary -- Interaction -- Faith in Action



/Chapters One and Two presented the Creation narrative with different 
emphasis./

/Chapter Three described Adam and Eve's horribly wrong choice and the 
devastating consequences./

/Chapter Four described early life after Eden./

/Chapters Five and Six describes the terrible failure of humankind to 
seek after God and His decision to destroy live on the earth and restart 
with a Noadic remnant./

/Chapters Seven and Eight conclude the Ark story./

/Chapters Nine and Ten contain God's early instructions to the survivors 
of the Flood, the sin of Ham, and the future genealogies of the 
descendants of Noah's sons./

/Chapters Eleven, Twelve, and Thirteen describe the dispersal of the 
nations, Abram's travels, the kidnapping of Sarai, and the parting of 
Abram and Lot./

/Chapters Fourteen and Fifteen; Abram given victory in battle rescuing 
Lot, and the covenant is presented by God./

/Chapters Sixteen and Seventeen; Ishmael is born, covenant with Abraham 
further clarified, male circumcision required./


*Genesis 18:1-8 (Sunday)*


/Three Special Visitors /

/ /

/18:1 The Lord appeared to Abraham by the oaks of Mamre while he was 
sitting at the entrance to his tent during the hottest time of the day. 
18:2 Abraham looked up and saw three men standing across from him. When 
he saw them he ran from the entrance of the tent to meet them and bowed 
low to the ground. /

/ /

/18:3 He said, "My lord, if I have found favor in your sight, do not 
pass by and leave your servant. 18:4 Let a little water be brought so 
that you may all wash your feet and rest under the tree. 18:5 And let me 
get a bit of food so that you may refresh yourselves since you have 
passed by your servant's home. After that you may be on your way." "All 
right," they replied, "you may do as you say." /

/ /

/18:6 So Abraham hurried into the tent and said to Sarah, "Quick! Take 
three measures of fine flour, knead it, and make bread." 18:7 Then 
Abraham ran to the herd and chose a fine, tender calf, and gave it to a 
servant, who quickly prepared it. 18:8 Abraham then took some curds and 
milk, along with the calf that had been prepared, and placed the food 
before them. They ate while he was standing near them under a tree. /

/ /

*Prayer:*  Lord, may I recognize You and rush to worship and to serve You.


*Commentary*


The three "men" are clearly "heavenly" in origin as Abraham runs to 
them, something unusual for man, especially of his age, because Abraham 
addresses at least one a "Lord", and because Abraham bows in submission 
to them.


Abraham pleads to be permitted to provide foot washing, food, and a 
shady place for rest.


Abraham has Sarah and his servants prepare "fine" bread and a "fine" 
calf -- the best for his very special guests. He then stood apart from 
them, as a servant from his master, as they ate.


*Interaction*


*Consider this:* Abraham was a powerful and wealthy man in that part of 
the world, he had only previously shown such deference to Melchizedek 
(Gen. 14: 17-20).


*Discuss this:* Abraham doesn't just mouth platitudes he demonstrates 
his respect via significant acts of hospitality.


*Reflect on this:* Abraham recognizes his place, unlike Eve who believed 
the lie that she could be "like God", and steps back from the table of 
the Lord. How things changed with the coming of The Christ; not that we 
are "like God", but that we have God via the Holy Spirit in us and we 
are "co-heirs with Christ, assured Heaven.


*Share this:* When have you recognized a special gift in someone and 
rather than competing with them for attention or distracting them from 
their task you have humbly served them?


*Faith in Action*


*Prayer:* Ask the Holy Spirit to find you a humble servant of the Lord.


*Action:* Prayerfully seek a place in your walk with God where you have 
displaced Him with your own effort and commit to instead allow Him to 
lead and you to be His humble servant.


*Be Specific* 
_______________________________________________________________________


/*Monday's text will be:  Genesis 18:9-15*/

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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Sun May 30 21:03:25 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 20:03:25 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 16:6-16 (Monday)
Message-ID: <4C030ADD.1040208@bibleseven.com>

*Genesis 16:6-16 (Monday)*


/Three Special Visitors (continued)/

/ /

/18:9 Then they asked him, "Where is Sarah your wife?" He replied, 
"There, in the tent." 18:10 One of them said, "I will surely return to 
you when the season comes round again, and your wife Sarah will have a 
son!" (Now Sarah was listening at the entrance to the tent, not far 
behind him. 18:11 Abraham and Sarah were old and advancing in years; 
Sarah had long since passed menopause.) 18:12 So Sarah laughed to 
herself, thinking, "After I am worn out will I have pleasure, especially 
when my husband is old too?" /

/ /


/18:13 The Lord said to Abraham, "Why did Sarah laugh and say, 'Will I 
really have a child when I am old?' 18:14 Is anything impossible for the 
Lord? I will return to you when the season comes round again and Sarah 
will have a son." 18:15 Then Sarah lied, saying, "I did not laugh," 
because she was afraid. But the Lord said, "No! You did laugh." /


*Prayer: * Lord, may I be mature enough so that even when Your promises 
seem impossible I will trust You, and even when caught doubting I will 
not lie but will confess and ask that my faith be increased.


*Commentary*


The heavenly visitors announce again, in the most specific and 
unambiguous language, God's plan for Sarah's pregnancy.


Sarah, bitter and hopeless as she was post-menopausal; in the experience 
of the world no longer able to become pregnant and to bear a child, so 
she laughed when they made their announcement.


The Lord challenged Abraham about Sarah's doubts, at which moment Sarah 
-- frightened that the Lord was aware of her lack of faith -- denied 
lying, yet the Lord corrected her with the truth while He steadfastly 
declared His intention to return when it was time for the child to be born.



*Interaction*


*Consider this:* Sarah's eyes were on her imperfect flesh and not on her 
perfect Lord.


*Discuss this:* Despite the history of God's faithfulness and power 
Sarah failed to trust. Why?


*Reflect on this:* Sarah's response to being caught doubting the Lord 
was to lie.


*Share this:* When have you struggled to see things through God's eyes 
instead of the limited vision of the world?


*Faith in Action*


*Prayer:* Ask the Holy Spirit to remind you of God's faithfulness and power.


*Action:* Prayerfully ask the Holy Spirit to bring to your awareness 
something you have resisted trusting Him to do that He has promised to 
do for you -- because in-your-flesh you believe it to be impossible. 
In-faith commit to the Holy Spirit that you will walk with Him in faith 
and allow God to work in and through you the beyond-the-flesh work He 
has promised. Share the story with at least one other believer as an 
encouragement, and perhaps with someone considering-Christ as a witness.


*Be Specific* 
_______________________________________________________________________


*/Tuesday's text will be:  Genesis 18:16-33/
*


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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Mon May 31 10:18:28 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 09:18:28 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] If the grass is greener on the other side of the
	fence ...
Message-ID: <4C03C534.8020909@bibleseven.com>

This is from an E-mail signature I saw recently:

"If the grass is greener on the other side of the fence,
then maybe you aren't watering your own lawn..."
Source: Unknown

When we fail to nurture what God has given us
those things suffer from neglect and what others
have become more appealing to the "eyes of our flesh".



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From pastordavid at bibleseven.com  Mon May 31 21:40:42 2010
From: pastordavid at bibleseven.com (Pastor David)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 20:40:42 -0500
Subject: [Linux4christians] Genesis 18:16-33 (Tuesday)
Message-ID: <4C04651A.6080005@bibleseven.com>

*Genesis 18:16-33 (Tuesday)*


/Abraham Pleads for Sodom /

/ /

/18:16 When the men got up to leave, they looked out over Sodom. (Now 
Abraham was walking with them to see them on their way.) 18:17 Then the 
Lord said, "Should I hide from Abraham what I am about to do? 18:18 
After all, Abraham will surely become a great and powerful nation, and 
all the nations on the earth will pronounce blessings on one another 
using his name. 18:19 I have chosen him so that he may command his 
children and his household after him to keep the way of the Lord by 
doing what is right and just. Then the Lord will give to Abraham what he 
promised him." /

/ /

/18:20 So the Lord said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so 
great and their sin so blatant 18:21 that I must go down and see if they 
are as wicked as the outcry suggests. If not, I want to know." /

/ /

/18:22 The two men turned and headed toward Sodom, but Abraham was still 
standing before the Lord./


/18:23 Abraham approached and said, "Will you sweep away the godly along 
with the wicked? /


/18:24 What if there are fifty godly people in the city? Will you really 
wipe it out and not spare the place for the sake of the fifty godly 
people who are in it? 18:25 Far be it from you to do such a thing -- to 
kill the godly with the wicked, treating the godly and the wicked alike! 
Far be it from you! Will not the judge of the whole earth do what is 
right?" /

/ /

/18:26 So the Lord replied, "If I find in the city of Sodom fifty godly 
people, I will spare the whole place for their sake." /

/ /

/18:27 Then Abraham asked, "Since I have undertaken to speak to the Lord 
(although I am but dust and ashes), 18:28 what if there are five less 
than the fifty godly people? Will you destroy the whole city because 
five are lacking?" He replied, "I will not destroy it if I find 
forty-five there." /

/ /

/18:29 Abraham spoke to him again, "What if forty are found there?" He 
replied, "I will not do it for the sake of the forty." /

/ /

/18:30 Then Abraham said, "May the Lord not be angry so that I may 
speak! What if thirty are found there?" He replied, "I will not do it if 
I find thirty there." /

/ /

/18:31 Abraham said, "Since I have undertaken to speak to the Lord, what 
if only twenty are found there?" He replied, "I will not destroy it for 
the sake of the twenty." /

/ /

/18:32 Finally Abraham said, "May the Lord not be angry so that I may 
speak just once more. What if ten are found there?" He replied, "I will 
not destroy it for the sake of the ten." /

/ /

/18:33 The Lord went on his way when he had finished speaking to 
Abraham. Then Abraham returned home. /


*Prayer:* Lord, may I be as sensitive as Abraham for the righteous 
hidden among the multitudes of the unrighteous.


*Commentary*


As Abraham was "... /still standing before the Lord"/ God announced that 
He intended to bring a terrible judgment upon Sodom.


Abraham challenges God to reconsider the destruction of Sodom and God 
agrees -- of course knowing that Abraham's condition of righteous men 
could not be met.


*Interaction*


*Consider this:* Abraham was so concerned for the righteous in Sodom 
that he was willing to challenge God several times to consider 
withholding His hand of judgment.


*Discuss this:* Sodom, like much of the world today, was immersed in sin 
yet God was willing to bless a handful of the righteous in their midst 
and therefore bless the unrighteous all around them.


*Reflect on this:* Abraham has a sense of fatherly responsibility for 
the people in the region, even Sodom -- whom he had previously rescued 
from an invading army, perhaps even more-so because his nephew Lot lived 
there.


*Share this:* When have you pleaded with God to withhold His hand of 
judgment upon a parent for the sake of a child or a spouse for the sake 
of their mate or some other unrighteous person for the sake of a 
righteous one who might be harmed?


*Faith in Action*


*Prayer:*  Ask the Holy Spirit to grant you a new sensitivity for the 
righteous surrounded by the unrighteous.


*Action:*  Prayerfully select a small group of people, perhaps students 
at a college or other school or employees in a workplace. who are 
surrounded by people immersed in sin. Agree to pray for their protection 
and ask others to do so as well.


*Be Specific* 
_______________________________________________________________________


*/Wednesday's text will be:  Genesis 19:1-11/

*

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