[Linux4christians] Shellfish Logic and the Defense of Homosexual Marriage - EXCELLENT!
chris at adebenham.com
Tue Jul 6 22:25:00 EDT 2010
On 7 July 2010 11:45, David Kuntadi <d.kuntadi at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Billy F. Staggs <bstaggs at staggs.net> wrote:
>> I would have a hard time trying to reconciling this theory with the
>> following verses:
> Well, I don't say that gay/lesbian is ok, as it happen after
> separation of Eve from Adam.
> I do agree that gay and lesbian could not multiply by their behavior.
> But I just want to explore Adam condition before Eve was taken out from him:
> We know that all creatures created by God could multiply, so, could
> Adam multiply by himself? If not, then, does God created Adam
> imperfect (could not multiply)?
An interesting thought. Was Adam created imperfect because he could
not continue his species?
>From my reading there was no death before the fall - and so by
extension there would be no need to multiply - animals included.
The need to reproduce only comes into play when there is risk of
death. Imagine if there was no death but animals and man could
reproduce - the numbers would grow exponentially for eternity, quickly
overwhelming the world.
The bible does not explicitly state that animals (or anything)
reproduced before the fall - and even in the case of man eve was
created to fulfil the need for companionship - not the need to
reproduce. After all Adam and Eve had no children until after the
fall - suggesting that reproduction was not needed/possible until
after the fall - at which point God allowed it since it was now needed
to continue the species.
The first reference to offspring is in Genesis 2:16 which is after the
fall and is to say that childbearing is on it's way and it will hurt.
Through all this I can see nothing to suggest that Adam was created as
non-gender specific and there is no need for him to be so in order to
explain what occurs
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