[Linux4christians] Idolatry vs Worship [Was: Ex-Muslim's college speech disrupted by arson.]
d.kuntadi at gmail.com
Thu Dec 17 21:58:03 EST 2009
I fully understand what you mean. But why take so much trouble to
explain what is clearly stated? For me, I accept that ancient Hebrew
make many mistakes about the way they worship God, as simple as that.
And Jesus has rectify it.
Another example is eye for eye, tooth for tooth:
Exo 21:23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,
Exo 21:24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
Exo 21:25 Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.
Exo 21:26 And if a man smite the eye of his servant, or the eye of
his maid, that it perish; he shall let him go free for his eye's sake.
Exo 21:27 And if he smite out his manservant's tooth, or his
maidservant's tooth; he shall let him go free for his tooth's sake.
Jesus clearly reject this idea:
Mat 5:38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and
a tooth for a tooth:
Mat 5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever
shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
Do you to give explanation to this also? For me, just accept it, do
not waste your effort.
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Pastor David
<pastordavid at bibleseven.com> wrote:
> "Lifted up" has a narrow Biblical meaning - you are adding
> meaning beyond the intent or the context.
> Jesus is GOD therefore is worthy of being "lifted up" as a
> symbol of GOD *but* because HE is also GOD HE is worthy of direct worship.
> A *symbol* of worship is never itself worshiped or else it becomes an idol -
> a false representation of GOD.
> One may "lift up" hands in worship, a symbol of my submission to or love for
> GOD, my hands do not become worthy of worship nor does my "lifting them up"
> make them idols.
> In some cults one may see false leaders present themselves, or objects they
> have touched, be promoted as worthy of worship - this is not a Biblical.
> Does any of this help to better describe the difference?
>> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:03 AM,
>> <htgage3 at chartermi.net> wrote:
>>> We must at all costs worship Jesus only. To worship
>>> anyone, anything, else, is idolatry.
>> Then, that come the problem of Serpent Brass:
>> "And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness,
>> even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever
>> believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal
>> The serpent brass was also worship by people of Israel,
>> that is why Jesus took the example of how to treat Jesus,
>> the same as Israel treat the serpent brass. Am I right
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