[Linux4christians] Baptists (was Re: Ex-Muslim's college speech disrupted by arson.)

[Pastor David]

I happen to be affiliated with a local fellowship which
is associated with other local fellowships which together
have used the name "Baptist" to label their voluntary 
association.

That some choose to draw some sort of historical linkage
between the momentary Baptist network of local fellowships 
and past organizations is interesting academia I suppose
but tells one little to nothing relevant to Biblical
truth.

I only trace my salvation roots to a decision made in
response to an offer from God.

I only trace my doctrinal roots to what I have read in
the non-associational/non-denominational Word of God,
I have little to no interest in extra-Biblical dogma or 
tradition.

While Presbyterians and Methodists and Lutherans and
others may fairly be labeled "Protest-ants" as they
were created in "protest" against some (not all) of
the non-Biblical practices of the Roman Catholic
religious/political organization.

The true "Church" (believers and local fellowships
of believers) would be far healthier if every evidence
of man's religious inventions between the time of the
authorship of the NT and now would suddenly disappear
and everyone was forced to rely upon the Bible and
nothing but.

> On Dec 10, 2009, at 4:11 PM, Timothy Butler wrote:
> 
>>>>
>>>> Actually, Baptists historically also come out of the Catholic Church,
>>>> primarily through England, through the Puritans.
>>>
>>> No that is NOT correct. Sorry. Baptist were before the catholic 
>>> church ever was. Baptists were in the first church at Jerusalem. 
>>> Constantine started the catholic church, hundreds of years after 
>>> Christ started His church.
>>
>>     Most historians would disgree with you. Here's a Baptist site that 
>> offers the more standard history:
>>     http://www.baptisthistory.org/baptistbeginnings.htm
>>
>>     (Check out some good Church History books that are not partisan to 
>> a particular denomination if you'd like to confirm what I'm saying.)
>>
>>     One would have a very hard time proving baptists existed in 
>> Jerusalem -- there is no historical record to suggest that, to the 
>> best of my knowledge. On extant evidence, one could make as compelling 
>> (if not more compelling) argument of a primitive Presbyterian church. 
>> But, I don't recommend doing it. :-)
> 
>     Incidentally, the easiest way to trace the linage of a church is 
> simply to look at where its organization comes from. Baptists in the 
> U.S. trace back to the same Elizabethean/Jacobean Puritans that founded 
> the Presbyterian and Congregational churches... (cf. Wm. H. Brackney, 
> _Baptists in North America: An Historical Perspective [Oxford: 
> Blackwell, 2006], i.)
> 
>     -Tim
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