[Linux4christians] Baptists (was Re: Ex-Muslim's college speech disrupted by arson.)

[Timothy Butler]

On Dec 10, 2009, at 4:11 PM, Timothy Butler wrote:

>>>
>>> Actually, Baptists historically also come out of the Catholic  
>>> Church,
>>> primarily through England, through the Puritans.
>>
>> No that is NOT correct. Sorry. Baptist were before the catholic  
>> church ever was. Baptists were in the first church at Jerusalem.  
>> Constantine started the catholic church, hundreds of years after  
>> Christ started His church.
>
> 	Most historians would disgree with you. Here's a Baptist site that  
> offers the more standard history:
> 	http://www.baptisthistory.org/baptistbeginnings.htm
>
> 	(Check out some good Church History books that are not partisan to  
> a particular denomination if you'd like to confirm what I'm saying.)
>
> 	One would have a very hard time proving baptists existed in  
> Jerusalem -- there is no historical record to suggest that, to the  
> best of my knowledge. On extant evidence, one could make as  
> compelling (if not more compelling) argument of a primitive  
> Presbyterian church. But, I don't recommend doing it. :-)

	Incidentally, the easiest way to trace the linage of a church is  
simply to look at where its organization comes from. Baptists in the  
U.S. trace back to the same Elizabethean/Jacobean Puritans that  
founded the Presbyterian and Congregational churches... (cf. Wm. H.  
Brackney, _Baptists in North America: An Historical Perspective  
[Oxford: Blackwell, 2006], i.)

	-Tim